This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

saw three billboards last night and am officially baffled by the praise. some great performances but imho very confused and ill-timed.

any of you seen I, Tonya?

Thought so, but I'm confusing it with I, Olga. That one is pretty good.

anyone seen Beach Rats?

A disappointment. I liked her last film a lot.

yep, not good

Natl Board of Review tomorrow. Hoping for a Cynthia Nixon upset.

is it not even sexy?

Gotham winners, by the way ...

BEST FEATURE
Call Me by Your Name

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Strong Island

BINGHAM RAY BREAKTHROUGH DIRECTOR AWARD
Jordan Peele for Get Out

BEST SCREENPLAY
Get Out, Jordan Peele

BEST ACTOR
James Franco in The Disaster Artist

BEST ACTRESS
Saoirse Ronan in Lady Bird

BEST ENSEMBLE
The 2017 Best Actor/Best Actress nominating committee has also voted to award a special Gotham Jury Award for ensemble performance to Mudbound. The award will go to actors Carey Mulligan, Garrett Hedlund, Jason Clarke, Jason Mitchell, Mary J. Blige, Rob Morgan, and Jonathan Banks.

BREAKTHROUGH ACTOR
Timothée Chalamet in Call Me by Your Name

AUDIENCE AWARD
Get Out

And here we go!

NATIONAL BOARD OF REVIEW

BEST PICTURE: The Post
BEST DIRECTOR: Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
BEST ACTOR: Tom Hanks, The Post
BEST ACTRESS: Meryl Streep, The Post
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: Foxtrot
BEST ANIMATED FEATURE: Coco
BEST DOCUMENTARY: Jane
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: Paul Thomas Anderson, Phantom Thread
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber, The Disaster Artist
BEST DIRECTORIAL DEBUT: Jordan Peele, Get Out
BEST ENSEMBLE: Get Out
BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE: Timothée Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name
SPOTLIGHT AWARD: Wonder Woman, Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot
NBR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION: First They Killed My Father
NBR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION: Let It Fall: Los Angeles 1982-1992

TOP FILMS
Baby Driver
Call Me By Your Name
The Disaster Artist
Downsizing
Dunkirk
The Florida Project
Get Out
Lady Bird
Logan
Phantom Thread

TOP TEN INDEPENDENT FILMS
Beatriz at Dinner
Brigsby Bear
A Ghost Story
Lady Macbeth
Logan Lucky
Loving Vincent
Menashe
Norman: The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer
Patti Cake$
Wind River

TOP 5 FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMS
A Fantastic Woman
Frantz
Loveless
Summer 1993
The Square

TOP 5 DOCUMENTARIES
Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Brimstone & Glory
Eric Clapton: Life in 12 Bars
Faces Places
Hell On Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS

ooooooof

Giving The Post three of the top four awards is soooo NBR.

And I say that as the ilxor who will probably wind up liking the movie the most.

Even still, the Nat'l Board of Review doesn't know how to count.

Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project

the grossest win

How will you keep track of all your betes noir this year?

have you seen my worst songs project? They're in my blood.

I'm sure I'll have no room to rib once I catch Downsizing.

NYFCC on Thursday

i.e. the group that actually DID give La La Land best picture last year

The voting has begun #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

Maybe Oscar will do us all the favor of giving all 5 best actor slots to actresses instead this year:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gary-oldman-the-oscar-frontrunner-with-a-dark-past

Not online yet, so the commentary that's so crucial isn't available yet, but here's John Waters' essential list for the year:

1. Baby Driver (Edgar Wright)
2. I, Olga Hepnarová (Petr Kazda, Tomáš Weinreb)
3. The Strange Ones (Christopher Radcliff, Lauren Wolkstein)
4. Nocturama (Bertrand Bonello)
5. Wonderstruck (Todd Haynes)
6. Graduation (Christian Mungiu)
7. The Wizard of Lies (Barry Levinson)
8. Lady Macbeth (William Oldroyd)
9. Wonder Wheel (Woody Allen)
10. Tom of Finland (Dome Karukoski)

Welp, so much for Get Out's best film hopes, probably:

BEST FIRST FILM: GET OUT (JORDAN PEELE)

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: PBM (BEATS PER MINUTE) / ROBIN CAMPILLO #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

In case they end up deleting that typo tweet, best foreign film was BPM

did Lady Macbeth get a US release?

Get Out's guaranteed an Oscar slot, I reckon.

BEST NONFICTION FILM: FACES PLACES (AGNES VARDA) #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

Mild surprise over BPM.

What would you have expected over it at this point? Doesn't seem like there's any Toni Erdmanns in the mix this year to dominate over all.

Well, speaking of categories that seem a little thin on competition this year:

BEST ANIMATED FILM: COCO (LEE UNKRICH, ADRIAN MOLINA) #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

yes jed, Lady Macbeth was in theaters for about a minute

What would you have expected over it at this point? Doesn't seem like there's any Toni Erdmanns in the mix this year to dominate over all.

― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.),

The Square or Thelma?

or Nocturama (which was better reviewed in NY than The Square i think)

have no idea what the critical standing of this year's imminent Haneke is.

BPM would be my choice for best film right now

thinking Call Me By Your Name is a good guess for NY's top choice, unless there's a Dunkirk faction.

The former is far more divisive than BPM. The latter is much less in the conversation.

xps yeah, Nocturama would be that candidate if it weren't so controversial.

They've invited 8 new members, and only one of them has what I'd consider Dunkirkian tastes.

no one liked the haneke much iirc

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: MUDBOUND / RACHEL MORRISON #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

Yew-hew, Lord Soto:

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: WILLEM DAFOE / THE FLORIDA PROJECT #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

fuck-yew

Somewhere, Michael Stuhlbarg weeps and wishes he'd gotten more than one scene.

BOOM

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: TIFFANY HADDISH / GIRLS TRIP #NYFCC

— Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) November 30, 2017

i guess Dafoe might be the inevitable one down the line this year

ah, the Young Turks dig deep for some unwatchable comedy?

xp Possibly. His category is the least stacked with alternatives.

i have no idea who Tiffany Haddish is. This an all-out broadly comic role?

I did like Malcolm Lee's Undercover Brother, but damn that was a long time ago.

hoping my beloved Cynthia Nixon takes it

(watch they pull some Kate Winslet bullshit)

the Winslet sizzle of October seems to have cooled some