The War on Drugs - A Deeper Understanding

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i swear i can't figure out if this band is kinda bland or incomparably brilliant, but i think it's one or the other, no in between

maybe that's the magic?

alpine static, Sunday, 26 November 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

i have the same problem as you, alpine static. i think they have their moments of brilliance. the problem being they try to extend those moments to minutes and than it all becomes pretty dull.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

saw them live a couple of weeks ago. The stuff off Lost in the Dream was fantastic, the rest... not so much.

Neil S, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

I was staggered that they were playing two nights at the Apollo in Manchester. I've seen New Order play there!

Neil S, Monday, 27 November 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

I used to like them.but i hate the new album.

nostormo, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

I don't really like the band name, but I liked the song "Strangest Thing"
I dig turtles, too.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

What's inside a turtle?

nostormo, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

understanding juice

President Keyes, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

I've also spent many years (intermittently, obv) trying to figure this band out -- even played a bunch of shows with him when he was nobody and he seemed like a cool guy but the sets didn't make an impression. It's like a band that started its career in its later-career burnout phase, or maybe more like post-burnout comeback phase where they start to sound pretty good again but a lot of the older musical idiosyncrasies are gone and there's less energy? Yet it's that concept carried so far that it almost becomes interesting again?

He relies a little too much on the same few vocal melody tricks/chord progression ideas. But there's something to be said for just developing a sound and really sticking to it I guess.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:26 (five years ago) link

Every song sounds like the video should be aerial footage from a seaplane low over the ocean fading into a closeup on the singer's emotively singing face in black and white, just that image sequence repeatedly

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link

A lot of people cite Dylan and Springsteen, but I'm reminded a lot of Bob Seeger doing "Against the Wind," even though it's a bit different both sonicly and in vocal style.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

It's like a band that started its career in its later-career burnout phase

I like this band but this is the best and most accurate description of them I have ever heard

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 05:44 (five years ago) link

It's pretty much how I've described my feeling about Tame Impala as well. The classic rock giants entering their 80's phase.

Chris L, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link

found the exact visual I was picturing for the videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hr64MxYpgk

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9LgHNf2Qy0

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

on paper this band sucks, but i love em unreservedly

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

they only know one song and i love that song. but i do not like to listen to it ten times in a row in one evening. in other words live they suck.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

You mean that song that starts on the IV/ and then it goes to the I
That sounded pretty good man/let's do another one
But I bet you never expected the song to go.../to the V

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

Saw them last night at The Fox in Oakland. I'm a big fan, but the show was still pretty much a snoozer. They literally brought their entire studio with them. Adam Granduciel had like 50-ish guitar pedals, and there were three different keyboard areas! It all added up to a giant wall of beautiful sound, but there was zero excitement. They also had a beautiful light show, which made up for some of the overly-mellow vibe, but I was waiting all night for some powerful moment that never came.

DJI, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

sounds pretty much like what I imagined

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

This album is the opposite of a grower. I seem to like it less and less each time I put it on. Even the songs I initially thought were great are becoming merely good.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, September 22, 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Apparently this album is the epitome of “opposite of a grower” because I was listening to Lost in the Dream earlier today and couldn’t believe WoD hadn’t released an album since 2014... only to find that they released this album in 2017. I have no memory of it - but according to this threat I listened to it, liked it at first and then grew to dislike it. And now I’ve successfully erased it from my mind.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 24 June 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link

according to this threat

good typo, ILX spirit.

Ludo, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Thanks to this thread I do recall now that they released an 11-minute songs as their lead single. But I still don’t remember how it goes.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 24 June 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

no one does

alpine static, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

Maybe it's still going.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

Thinking of a Place remains, to me, an awesome song.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 24 June 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

the new live album is really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

yup. had me at the track listing, for obvious reasons

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 November 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Lf31f7gRw

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

the best filmed version of An Ocean In Between The Waves is from Pukkelpop '18, some guy says in the comments here (I haven't seen all of them but I agree that this is possibly even better than on the live album) & starts at 8:25 here (first two songs are Nothing To Find (intro missing) and Pain)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjY0-7ptghk

StanM, Friday, 27 November 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

Having acoustic guitar on the rocking/upbeat numbers live as above is really smart, adding that strumming texture to it as you would on record

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

I was fully prepared to sneer at this because of some misplaced idea that it'd be overdubbed and polished so much as to basically be a studio album. Well, another bullshit opinion destroyed: Eyes to the Wind just completely took me out at the knees.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Even though it's mighty fine and impressive I still miss so many songs they could have selected for the live album. (Holding On, Nothing To Find, In Chains, Burning, etc etc) There's a couple of great sounding full shows out there that do contain them (Northside and Sziget for instance), I wonder if keeping this limited to 1 CD and his referring to Bruce's 1975-1985 is a subtle hint to bootleggers, to please release an alternate version?

StanM, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Pppp

DJI, Sunday, 13 December 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

?

StanM, Sunday, 13 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

album is incredible

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link

also a deeper understanding is my fav of their albums, this thread is insane

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:45 (three years ago) link

I think I butt dialed that last post from Zing, sorry.

DJI, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

that's exactly the post a butt would dial too

imago, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

Butt dialling, pianississimo.

pomenitul, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

J0rdan S otm

brimstead, Sunday, 13 December 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

thinking of a place is still the best song

ciderpress, Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCDJAFkWo

xzanfar, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link

they might be a band which, jeez you'd maybe have to go back to the 70s? whose best album is a live album

a little premature to say that obv but I really really like the live album so far

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link

Oh I guess Phish maybe? you'd have to ask a fan, I don't know that much about them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link

the 4 part podcast about 2020 + the live album (4 x 25 minutes, approx) is pretty interesting & enjoyable: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-super-high-quality-podcast/id1538505374

StanM, Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

a longer podcast episode on the making of Lost In The Dream https://www.buzzsprout.com/1346161/14687088-lost-in-the-dream-10th-anniversary

StanM, Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:15 (two weeks ago) link


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