Disappointing Iron Maiden performance amid all of that. If they'd beaten him I'd have pissed myself laughing.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link
I saw that the Shed Seven album dropped from 8 to 100
― Mark G, Saturday, 25 November 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link
Shed Seven album's sold slightly more in two weeks than their last one sold in 16 years. The new one's only sold about 15,000, mind.
― michaellambert, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link
The fact that there was any demand whatsoever for a new Shed Seven album is a stain on this great nation.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link
i have at least a couple of friends who still love that band *shrug emoji*
― who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
I have a cousin who is in a wedding band who described them as "Yorkshire's finest: The brilliant Shed 7" recently. Fucking seriously man!
― calzino, Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link
i saw the S7 album in the racks this week and did a double take.expected it to be a self released/low budget thing, but no .. major label release.
― mark e, Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link
Aw yeaaaaah:
DonaldJTrumpJr liked this tweet: https://t.co/HtDG77MrnV— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) November 27, 2017
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link
really hoped that was going to be a Tweet about Shed 7
― Big Pred aka (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
what's the verdict on morrissey according to ilx? is he racist or not?
http://www.nme.com/news/music/morrissey-kill-vermin-trump-2163033
come on ilx get yr act together
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
Yes, he's a racist.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
I dunno man, is that "the ilx verdict"? We are an effete liberal monoculture after all
― Big Pred aka (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
That's the DJP verdict, which is one I've held for close to 30 years now.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
It's basically a no-brainer
― Big Pred aka (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
Want to feel old? This is what Ross and Rachel from Friends look like now pic.twitter.com/5XZyLR3xBr— Stuart Taylor (@stuartctaylor) January 16, 2017
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link
As someone who has just had a large breakfast of sausages and bacon I don’t have any skin in this game but the myth that Hitler was a veggie was debunked years ago I think. Goebbels looked at charismatic firebrands such as Gandhi and Lenin and realized that he should present Adolf as an ascetic radical with so much dedication to the cause that he didn’t have time for wine and women and was too militant for tobacco and meat. Barely any of it was true, although he didn’t smoke. Interestingly, I think, you could argue that Morrissey has constructed a similar image for himself over the years. While I don’t doubt his dedication to vegetarianism, he’s always liked to cultivate this image of someone who shies away from life’s sensual pleasures. Anyone who has met him tends to paint the portrait of someone who is, ah, quite thirsty and perhaps the words ‘Ceylon tea’ could have been replaced by 13 pints of Stella in his most recent interview. See also his historical celibacy. I don’t care about this image making at all... just his dyspeptic bigotry. Just add him to the long list of retirement age musicians who are too stupid to realise that they have long since won their battles and no longer thrive in any useful way from their insistence on courting controversy. And at least John Lydon has the common sense to restrict himself to politics.
― Doran, Friday, 1 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
Apropos of nothing, I wouldn't describe Lenin as a charismatic firebrand, that sounds more like Trotsky, but I imagine Goebbels baulked at presenting Hitler as Jewish.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link
Totally fair point re: Trotsky. I guess the plan wasn't exactly presenting him as anything, just subtly sowing an idea of him in the public consciousness. Either way - the Hitler was a veggie thing, kind of boils my goat every time I hear it.
― Doran, Friday, 1 December 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link
I agree that he's fundamentally thick as pigshit and the most generous view you can take is to allow for this fact - idk about how "committed" he is to the animal rights cause, I suppose as much as any other interminable PETA gobshite who can't even be arsed to go vegan
― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Friday, 1 December 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link
xxphis latest biographer Volker Ullrich didn't debunk his vegetarianism in his gigantic first volume of Hitler: Ascent, maybe saving Baconrossa for vol2.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link
there were a lot of esoteric and ascetic ideas floating around Nazism, if Goebbels made up some of Hitler's quirks from whole cloth I've never seen later historians refute them
― another day another dolour (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link
the Ullrich book is allegedly the most rigorous + painstakingly researched study yet, but he admits the limitations of going through an archive with gaping gaps where huge parts of it were reduced to dust, but at least Morrissey's risible vanity novel still exists!
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link
a brief google tells me that the evidence on Hitler's diet is mixed but Morrissey is definitely a racist
― another day another dolour (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 11:54 (six years ago) link
idk about how "committed" he is to the animal rights cause, I suppose as much as any other interminable PETA gobshite who can't even be arsed to go vegan
4 real. re-title your album 'cheese is murder' or stfu imo
― damian green is people (NickB), Friday, 1 December 2017 12:00 (six years ago) link
he has Irish cheddar on his rider. he is pre-vegan veggoe for life
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 1 December 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
Ullrich suggests that Hitler's vegetarian diet was linked to his "pathological mix of fear of mortality and messianic conviction". He was more shit-scared of getting cancer than getting assassinated and was convinced he wouldn't get to 50, to do his important work. But I am sure at the odd BBQ he said "fuck it".
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
Irish Cheddar, English Heart Disease
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link
irish cheddar seems like something he'd be culturally (rather than politically) opposed to
― mark s, Friday, 1 December 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link
he's a Galtee dude
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
an expect-a-wexford mystery xp
― damian green is people (NickB), Friday, 1 December 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
"Irish Cheddar on the Rider" should be the title of his next album
― mahb, Friday, 1 December 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
holy shit this album suuuuuuuuucks aaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
lol you listened to the album
― Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
i also listened to every eagles track in sequence for a few months i have problems
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
Dropped from 5 to 48 this week. Have seen worse.
― michaellambert, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
Not much though.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Does Ulrich’s book contain much stuff on the Liverpool Hitlers, or give any credence to the idea that Adolf went there on holiday when he was younger?
― Doran, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
No mention of that + he also dismisses other things like one testicle, syphilis, mythical French girl called Charlotte he got pregnant and the Jewish grandfather.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich guy repeated a lot of allied propaganda without question imo
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
and is a total homophobic dick.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
well was, of course. A true product of his era I suppose.
I seem to remember him going especially into apoplectic rage over Röhm's homosexuality and any other Nazi gays, repeatedly.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
This album has grown on me. Even "Spent the Day in Bed" is alright to me now, it's really just the lyrics I don't care for. I think "Home Is a Question Mark" is a winner. It might be his worst LP, but there's some good stuff in there.
His new fixation on Israel is something. I'm guessing he played some shows there and liked the way he was received, so naturally he's got a song called "Israel" now, with lyrics like "they who reign abuse upon you / they are jealous of you as well". That was pretty much what I was afraid of when I saw the song title.
― JRN, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
Readers of this thread may also be interested to know that at the show in DC last night, he touted this album's #1 placement on the US and UK vinyl charts, while also saying that it went to #10 on the "US... other charts" (actually #20 on the Billboard 200, but #3 on the rock album chart, I've just learned).
― JRN, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
calz absolutely correct about Shirer -/I've.remembered his name now!
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
wondering now if this dimension of the shirer book (pub.1960) was what was responsible for the rash of films in the early 70s stressing the sexual decadence of the third reich (the damned, the night porter etc), which mostly starred dirk bogarde and were lapped up by some of the punky foax SPM admired when young (punky foax often cheekily pro the queer-cult elements the film-makers were a lot more ambivalent abt)
― mark s, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
Could well be the case, because there wasn't a lot of competition for Shirer's book, and as turgid as it is - it was still probably the most comprehensive guide to the Nazis going right into the 70's, unless I've missed something.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
yes, that's what i remember from the early 70s: grown-ups reading it and talking about it bcz it covered a lot of ground (not just sex) that was basically new to the general reading public
― mark s, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
I think it's v readable! it's just bollocks is all
― Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
I read about a quarter of it and then audio-booked the rest and it is entertaining bollox. But to some extent all Hitler books are bollox and often over-reliant on Goebbels horrible diaries or like Shirer writing works of fiction really, which I think even Kershaw is guilty of to some extent. They just haven't got that nebulous Soviet archive that Stalin biographers have, which are so fucking massive they overwhelm some people.
*lol just spellchecked + Goebbels horrible Dairies almost submitted.
― calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link