Led Zeppelin - Presence

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my favorite Zeppelin album

flappy bird, Thursday, 23 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I'll never understand that - not when this band released six stone cold classics in a row prior to this, which was their weakest record up to that point until they followed it up with one worse.

It's another one of those records that suffers from "Gaucho syndrome" - where people actually got it right first time around.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

It's easy to understand if you consider every Zep LP (exceot ITTOD) the best one.

And yeah, HOFN is a jam

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 24 November 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

Presence isn't as good as most of the other Zeppelin albums, no. It's more fragmented. It suffers by comparison. It's still considerably better than "two good songs and nothing" -- that's, like, weirdly "is it a banger or not???" thinking. Zep are considerably more interesting than that imo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 24 November 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

my favorite Zeppelin album

― flappy bird, Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:28 PM (two hours ago)

same, by a mile

WilliamC, Friday, 24 November 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link

and this isn't the fault of any of the records, but Presence is also the least culturally saturated Zep LP. I didn't listen to Led Zeppelin until about 2 years ago (right around when I made this poll). but songs like "Heartbreaker," "Kashmir," "Immigrant Song," "Dazed & Confused," "No Quarter," "When the Levee Breaks," "All My Love," "Whole Lotta Love," "Black Dog"... they're inescapable. And I love all their records. But the combination of Presence being completely fresh to me, along with its very straightforward no-frills meat&potatoes rock sound, appeal to me much more than all of their other records, which have much more dramatic narrative and sonic arcs. The epics, the acoustic songs, the drum solos, the riff-dozers. Presence is also one of the greatest examples of a band that's just really fucking tight and together with each other and well oiled and powerful, the kind of power and chemistry that can only come from years of playing & touring, and obviously the talent of the individuals.

flappy bird, Friday, 24 November 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

thank you Greta Van Fleet for bringing me back to this record

flappy bird, Saturday, 27 October 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

https://i.imgur.com/jaVmPCm.jpg

calstars, Friday, 22 May 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

precience

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

oh hell yeah

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

"alexa, what is the strange plastic alien object in the center of the room that this entire family seems creepily infatuated with ?"

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

yikes i made a typo i meant prescience **

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

if you're not taking advantage of quarantine to carve/whittle your own Object it's probably never going to happen

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link

fortunately i have insurance that will cover that and don't need to DIY

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 22 May 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Want to hear a mashup of Royal Orleans and steely’s Green Earrings

calstars, Sunday, 4 September 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link

I've often thought that The Object anticipated the mobile phone by several decades.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:27 (one year ago) link

wow do i not miss turrican

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 06:28 (one year ago) link

This is an amazing record where every song (except "Royal Orleans") has flashes of tedium about 80% of the way through - not because the band's energy is flagging, but because they're trying to goose the songs past their natural lengths.

Presence is also the least culturally saturated Zep LP.

I was visiting a woman who had all of the Zeppelin CDs except for this. "Oh, you don't have Presence!" "What's that?"

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

wow do i not miss turrican

Had to scroll up to remind myself of why that would be the case. Reminded.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

I think “Achilles’…” is perfect. No flashes of tedium there.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

"Tea For One" is my favorite Zep closer.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

I think this album has perhaps the weakest *songs* of any Zeppelin album (not that there aren't also flashes of genius, ie Achilles), but even when the songs aren't thrilling, the machine powering through it all, the band, is still a remarkable thing.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Sunday, 4 September 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

Did Turrican leave ILM? Also, I like Robert Plant a bunch, but I think his is at least a reasonable perspective.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

"Nobody's Fault But Mine".

I'd never heard this album until a couple of days ago. I can't say I like it very much - despite the best efforts of JPJ and Bonham. "Achilles Last Stand" is good but it's really a bit too prog metal for my tastes - I find some of it really clunky. The rest of the album just isn't very memorable.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:32 (two months ago) link

u mad bro
Achilles is like their best song

calstars, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:54 (two months ago) link

I'm mad? One person thinks "Royal Orleans" is better!

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link

“tea for one” is dreamy and incredible

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:27 (two months ago) link

"Tea For One" and "Hots on For Nowhere" on two ends of their spectrum are marvelous; the latter is top ten Zep imo.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:38 (two months ago) link

my favorite Zeppelin album

― flappy bird, Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:28 PM (two hours ago)

same, by a mile

― WilliamC, Thursday, November 23, 2017 7:18 PM (six years ago)

a hundred miles by now

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 02:24 (two months ago) link


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