evan literally the only information available is the apology
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
the av club report sucks, agreed
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
xxp fair enough, thx
― alpine static, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
new Glassjaw out next week. I like the single, sort of Deftonesy in the verse/chorus dynamic
― Simon H., Friday, 24 November 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
i’ve never really liked glassjaw so i’m curious
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 24 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
tbh same, Worship and Tribute sounds cool but never did much for me in terms of the actual content
― Simon H., Friday, 24 November 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
that new song sounds extremely cool though
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 24 November 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
It's more post-hardcore than emo but man this Flagland record is the craziest rock record I've heard in a long time, a big freewheeling shoestring opus. it seems beamed in from 2002 in the best way possible
https://flagland.bandcamp.com/album/two-brothers-and-a-ghost
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
I was listening to that just now! It was sounding kinda good - I think I turned it off during track 2 to check a few other things out, but you say it's worth hearing straight through?
― imago, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
I'm still only halfway through cause it's so fucking long - the vocalist is the weakpoint (as usual) but I'm digging the dynamism
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link
not one but four literary quotes on the bandcamp page
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
this record sure is like, 1/5 terrible and 4/5ths good
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
lmao yes that's about right. if they get an actual producer for the next one I could see them making a real killer
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
I just get excited when bands get overambitious, it seems like everyone's making tidy, safe little records these days
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
Seconding the People Like You recommendation above. Sort of like American Football if vocals were provided by The Anniversary.
https://peoplelikeyoumusic.bandcamp.com/album/verse
― Mercer Finn, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/04/young-and-dumb-inside
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
^^ i loved that
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
ok so i've heard the glassjaw (it's really weird) and now i can do this:
top emo/pop-punk albums 2017:
jeremy enigk: ghostsmanchester orchestra: a black mile to the surfacecirca survive: the amuletrainer maria: s/tparamore: after laughterglassjaw: material controlcaracara: summer megalithcreeper: eternity, in your armsracquet club: racquet clubfront bottoms: going greyoliver houston: whatever workssmidley: smidleysmith street band: more scared of you than you are of meiron chic: you can't stay hereworriers: survival pop sorority noise: you're not as ____ as you think
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
Yeah I think you got most of the really good ones there. Not a huge emo year for me personally, and uh certain things dampened my enthusiasm
― Simon H., Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
teotfw?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
more like bnsf
― Mordy, Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
i don't really feel like having a conversation about it but basically a) it feels wrong to leave my favorite album off the list for non-musical reasons and b) hills seem like uncomfortable places to die so i'm trying to avoid that
― Mordy, Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
mileages vary for all sorts of reasons but tbh I haven't been able to listen to Science Fiction since the details came out. And I tried.
― Simon H., Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
i've def felt a little weird relistening to certain songs from deja entendu but the new one is still great imo but i know i'm unusual in my tolerance for consuming ethically questionable media. i don't judge anyone who has come to a different perspective for sure. i'm a little annoyed bc i feel like i'm going to end up censoring myself when balloting comes around but idk there are much worse problems in the world i can live w/ this one.
― Mordy, Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
that’s cool. afaic after reading the accounts of the women involved i can’t fucking listen to it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
I love your list. The few I haven't heard, I must check out.
paramore,creeper,front bottoms, oliver houston, smith street band, iron chic, worriers, sorority noise would all make my list.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
Some days that Caracara LP is my favorite rock album of the year.
That Sorority Noise album is absolutely mammoth. And Rainer Maria... holy shit; the wow factor never went away with that one. Side A is flawless.
Would also add the Sinai Vessel album and Tall Friend and Club Night EPs to the pile. It's been a pretty sensational year, I think.
― Evan R, Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
Have we talked about the katie Ellen record here? Because that would probably be on my list
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
no Oso Oso, Brad?
― alpine static, Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link
i never actually managed to listen to that album!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:12 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Feeling this post. I'm annoyed too, not even with self-censorship, but with the fact that I got cheated. The new Brand New album was actually my first Brand New album: the emo-poll on here renewed my interest in the genre, and this came along, and I loved it to bits. Yada yada couple of months later and it's in tatters, because this fuckhead couldn't control himself.
Still think it's a great album, but no love lost in leaving it off the ballot. Not listened to it since I heard the news, but I'll be honest: it did feel like a rough and sudden break-up with something I held dear for a while. But as you say: there are bigger problems.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
I loved the Katie Ellen record, simple but potent
― Simon H., Thursday, 30 November 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
yeah the Katie Ellen record is a total charmer
― Evan R, Friday, 1 December 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link
i thought chumped was only ok and i like katie ellen even less but i’m still sorta thrilled that record is resonating with ppl
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
just nice to see friends of friends making good
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link
are earlier sorority noise albums good? i listened to a bit of one and it seemed to be lacking, something (the humour? the killer arrangements? his delivery was a little less dry maybe) that make 'you're not as _____ as you think' so good to me
― flopson, Friday, 1 December 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link
new one is the first one that made me care about them at all
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
there's a new Tiny Moving Parts single - pretty good! album's out in May
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
Brad, where would you have placed Br@nd N3w in your list if you had included it?
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 1 December 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
eh i’d rather not say, though i think it’s obvious from how enthusiastic i was about it when it came out
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
I was afraid you were going to say that.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
my remaining hope for 2017 is that Quote Unquote surprise-drops the new Antarctigo Vespucci before the month is out, not sure how likely that really is though
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
The new one is definitely the crowd-pleaser. Joy, Departed was a very sour record, and the It Kindly Stopped for Me EP is such a rough listen it almost feels like grief rendered into a snuff film. The tougher, alt-rock thing of the new one is a great look for them though.
― Evan R, Friday, 1 December 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
brad was not lying about the Glassjaw album, easily one of the least compromising reunion records I can recall
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
the nasty basslines and slurred guitars remind me a bit of Unsane
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
I'm on it!
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
"nasty" is the right word i think
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
simon if you haven't heard them i recommend the two eps glassjaw put out before this record, they were the first glassjaw things i even sorta liked and they sound even better alongside the new album
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
i like the new one so much that i'm gonna struggle to give a shit about worship & tribute again
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
that midsection where it just falls into a cavern ("strange hours" / "bastille day") is really cool
― Simon H., Friday, 1 December 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link