tarkovsky's stalker

were you at tonight's screening in TO? more walkouts than I was expecting for a 14$ rep screening lmao

I was, yeah. Didn't notice the walkouts--we were maybe halfway down in the middle. I think I only drifted for 10 or 15 minutes tonight, better than the other times (lost some towards the end of part one).

For anyone who counts it as one of your favourite films--it won the ILX road-movie poll--I wish I could experience it as you do. I have some of the same problems with The Tree of Life. Maybe it's a temperament thing, I don't know. There are long, slow films I love. My attention doesn't flag for a second during six hours of Frederick Wiseman's Near Death.

weirdly, I drifted off a bit during the screenings of The Sacrifice and The Mirror but stayed totally awake for Stalker. I find power-napping to Tarkovsky movies to be extremely pleasant (less so in public where snoring is a real danger)

my main takeaway from this screening was that I really wish the men had brought that woman along with them to the Zone

Agree wholeheartedly; she had more personality than the three of them put together. (Which, again, I realize is beside the point--I know, I know...)

Saw it on the big screen a few months ago, loved it even more. There are whole visual layers that are hard to see on TV. I get the "boring" tag, but I just find the whole thing sort of texturally exciting from one shot to the next.

I recently watched it at home for the first time, after trying and giving up once before. I don't know whether I 'got it' or not. There was an interview with Geoff Dyer on the Criterion Collection that I watched afterwards, and he made the interesting point that the first segments of the Zone (in Part I) strongly reminded him of being a child, wandering aimlessly and making up games to play among the remnants of old disused rail depots in the English countryside.

For me, the most mind-blowing moment in the entire movie (*minor spoiler alert*) came after the Zone, when we go back to the bedroom in Stalker's house where the opening sequence took place; but now the camera has been turned 90 degrees to reveal a wall, previously concealed out of frame, whose floor-to-ceiling shelves are completely stuffed with books.

even though I stayed awake this time the movie seems designed to lull you into a nap, including placing the Part 2 marker only an hour in

x-post: Ah nice, I've missed that. Claire Denis does the same in 35 Shots of Rhum, and it's also completely mind-blowing.

For anyone who counts it as one of your favourite films--it won the ILX road-movie poll--I wish I could experience it as you do. I have some of the same problems with The Tree of Life. Maybe it's a temperament thing, I don't know. There are long, slow films I love. My attention doesn't flag for a second during six hours of Frederick Wiseman's Near Death.

― clemenza, Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:40 AM (nine hours ago)

a) it didn't win, it was #2!
b) I fucking hate Tree of Life and find the comparison v insulting.
c) Sometimes people just don't gel with something! And that's okay (sorry for accidental clickbait phrasing).

my main takeaway from this screening was that I really wish the men had brought that woman along with them to the Zone

I know what you mean, but for me the contrast between the 'men in the Zone' bulk of the film and the sudden voice & agency of the female characters is startling in the best way. It had an enormous emotional impact on me when I first saw it.

the Dyer book is worth the read, but it's paced like the film.

I've watched it three times, agree with clemenza.

Apparently I bought the wrong Blu-Ray edition as the Curzon Home Cinema version uses an un-restored print, and it shows. You can see the film jump at every reel change, the soundtrack is often buried under crackling and so much of that incredible surface detail is lost in the murk. Seriously disappointing.

If I'd known how bad it was I wouldn't have bothered.

(xpost) Obviously, no insult intended--I guess I think of them both as somewhat mystical (which probably just tells you that I'm not getting one or both of them).

Forgot--Badlands won the road-movie poll.

Another guy at his wit's end.

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stalker is a headphones movie

That's what I used to say about the Alan Parsons Project's Tales of Mystery and Imagination back in high school. Except for the movie part.

what other movies do people like to sleep through

Leviathan (2012)

yes! i love falling asleep to Leviathan. also Picnic at Hanging Rock and The Third Man

... I have, on more than one occasion, put on a DVD of Tarkovsky's Solaris as a soporific

visiting locations in Estonia

https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/andrei-tarkovsky-stalker-locations

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I wonder if it was procion dye waste that was being dumped into the Jagala river. I used to knock about places that remind me of some of the Stalker locations and a dye company was dumping waste into the waterways at the time. The water + even some of the greenery in the surrounding area used to have a yellow tint and was horrible smelling at times. Also had an uncle who worked at the L B Dyes factory for 20 odd years and he was known as "Yellow Eddie" and loads of his co-workers died of lung cancer, but the yellow man defied the odds and died of a stroke.

Lots of skepticism from me on this thread, and if I were to watch it tomorrow, I know I'd drift off for stretches. But thinking about my twilight walks around town right now, I never would have guessed that life would more or less turn into this movie (or at least this movie plus the occasional car).

Finally watched this some months ago. Very moving, honestly.

Working my way through the ilx list and we watched this last night. It's a great film and liked it very much. It's possible it could have been edited tighter and it wouldn't have lost much and might have gained power. Otoh, I understand and accept the argument that the length is part of the journey and helps put you in the place of the characters.

Visually stunning and the final shot of the reactor is incredible.

I kept thinking about how this SF movie is largely without effects other than some lighting. Does anyone know how much of certain shots were staged versus just shooting what was there? Thinking of the dream sequence with the shots of objects in the water.

Watched this today, cocooned in a blanket, wind raging outside. I'm still processing it - the material reality of the film, and the experiential aspect of watching the thing. It felt quite close to meditation in places - watching the screen became watching the mind and what drifted across the internal screen. Did any of this chime with the stuff on the screen etc.

The two shots that are currently bouncing around in my head are the lingering (when doesn't the camera linger?) shot of the heroin paraphernalia in the apartment and the vast wall of books - and what both mean for the stalker's state of mind and his purpose for entering and re-entering the zone. Are we to believe that he's been multiple times but hasn't been 'able' to enter the room?

I've read the Strugatsky book but don't remember it sufficiently to know how whether a re-read will throw new light on the the film. Man, what a trip.

I’ve seen this movie three times and I’ve never noticed the heroin paraphernalia. Like needle, what else?

I have maybe concocted it but definitely recall a tray with a syringe and cotton wool balls. Multiple syringes underwater throughout as well. And I read his wife's first tirade as a reaction to his falling back into addiction (as well, clearly, as continually falling for the allure of the Zone).

I would assume that was an allusion to the unspecified health problems of the daughter?

That’s what I might have thought

We’re ringing down the curtain on 2022 with this tonight, gonna be a good time

I specifically left tonight empty with no obligation to do anything. My 16yr old son has just asked if a 'few friends' can come over as they have nowhere else to go. Give me Stalker any day.

xps - ah ok, that makes perfect sense.

Maybe this could be an NYE tradition: watch Stalker and then watch Dinner for One.

I’m due for another viewing but to me seems like a more perfect reflective New Year’s Day viewing.

But my wife didn’t like Andrei Rublev and I’m afraid what she’s think about Stalker. 🙁

definitely saw the drug paraphernalia as medicating the kid who is getting telekinesis

(this thread being bumped prompted me to t0r3nt every tarkovsky for my collection)

I did that years ago and it was a very good move

(Genuine question from someone who has forgotten how: um, where does one t0r3nt from these days? All my old places are long dead.)

With regard to the stalker and his obsessive returning to the room, I can't stop thinking of the phrase 'you had everything you needed right there'.

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chinaski, drop me a line via ilx mail about plex

stalker was available for a long time on youtube, some semi-official moscow film upload

oh, still is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hBLv-HLEc

Nice, thanks! In 4K, no less! It looks like Mosfilm also uploaded *Andrei Rublev* (first cut (205 min) and final cut (182 min)), *The Mirror* and *Ivan's Childhood*.

"(Genuine question from someone who has forgotten how: um, where does one t0r3nt from these days? All my old places are long dead.)"

I went through the same despair, now I pay a few quid per 6 months for a usenet provider and something similar for a nzb site and now I don't bother with the ghost-towns of formerly good torrent sites any more!

they’re all on criterion, just subscribe to criterion