if there's a better compiler than Bob Stanley out there, I'd sure like to know...

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Thanks, but I'm not too worried.

Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

I'm a bit confused about these. I figure Stanley's usual target audience will already own, say, Forever Changes, let alone "Dedicated To The One I Love" or "What A Fool Believes", but a more casual type would be lost at sea with some of these other selections?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

isn't the point that they'll be listening to similar sounding artists in the context of ones they know and like

Number None, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I guess that makes sense, and is good.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link

i'm guessing a 15 year old gifted with these by an uncle wouldn't know any of it? or not much at least.

i wish he'd do 80s and 90s comps as i find the 60s and pre punk 70s dull as owt. a Bob Stanley 80s synth-pop/indie-pop comp would rock.

piscesx, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

How many 15-year olds do you know with a turntable to play them on?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

those crosley portable turntables were all tha rage a couple of years ago

koogs, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

I don't know many 15 year olds but I'd guess half the teenagers I do know (NB: not many) have access to a turntable. Sample size: my friends' children. Other consideration: such children also have access to my friends' record collections, poor blighters.

Tim, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

yeah these are nice comps but i'm also wondering how 'useful' they are and who would want them, especially in the age of Spotify recommended playlists etc

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

These look like v. good compilations full of stuff that will sound great on vinyl and a good balance of familiar and unfamiliar stuff. Obviously the really familar stuff will be in lots of people's collections (probably on CD) and virtually all of it will be available on streaming services but that's not really the point is it?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

i guess it's a bigger question of what purpose compilations serve in the age of streaming. I like having things on vinyl for all the usual reasons, so that's one thing. The familiar stuff has obvs been included to hook shoppers in with the hope of introducing them to the other stuff, but still it's an interesting thing to market through a grocery supermarket. I hope it works.

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

As a once-prolific buyer of physical-format music, I find that compilations are mainly what I look for these days, in the record store. (And lavishly-packaged box sets/reissues too, of course.) If I want to hear the latest album by, whoever, I can probably find it on Spotify, but the tracks on the more obscure comps (esp. the Stanley/Wiggs ones like English Weather, Tea & Symphony, Songs for Mario's Cafe, etc.), I'd be hard-pressed to find them all on any streaming service.

henry s, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I think it's possible to over-think this. They're nice compilations - had the LA one on at the weekend, it's a good end-to-end listen with some unfamiliar stuff (to me) in there alongside the familiar classics - clearly not meant to be a Soul Jazz / Light In The Attic-style archival deep dive. The design's nice, and Stanley's essay inside ties it all together very pleasantly.

Sainsburys clearly shifts enough vinyl for this to be worthwhile for them - but given that I suspect they're mainly selling either Mumsnet fare like Rag & Bone Man and Adele or expensive reissues of very very overexposed classics, this is a surprising toe in slightly more adventurous waters.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

i like the cover designs.
very library styled.

mark e, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

I guess the target market is people who have just got their first turntable and are in an enthusiastic early buying phase + older people who have just bought a turntable again after keeping all their vinyl in the loft for a decade. They'll sell enough to people who are doing the weekly shop and just buy them on the spur of the moment, I guess.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

> yeah these are nice comps but i'm also wondering how 'useful' they are and who would want them, especially in the age of Spotify recommended playlists etc

Merry Christmas, i got you a spotify playlist...

koogs, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I don’t really buy the argument that the comp is redundant in the age of the Spotify playlist, given that Spotify also has *whole albums* too and no one (on this thread at least) is saying these are obsolete too.

Don’t want to overstate the case for these Sainsbury’s albums, but a physical compilation can be a lovely thing.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

That somehow ties into my slightly snarky theory that a lot of teenagers will go crazy for vinyl until they actually have to move it all into/away from college.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

So many Spotify playlists, even useful ones, are 250-tracks long with entire albums shunted in there and no thought to flow or confluence or anything else. Curation matters.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

Spotify also has *whole albums* too and no one (on this thread at least) is saying these are obsolete too

*bursts in sweating*

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

For those looking for more Stanley curation goodness, I'm listening to his Soho Radio show on mixcloud, and it's pretty fucking solid (though the discrepancies in volume between the songs and his voice can annoy).

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

http://acerecords.co.uk/when-the-day-is-done-the-orchestrations-of-robert-kirby

New Robert Kirby comp compiled by Stanley.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

Must have!

henry s, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

Love that Keith Christmas track. Had no idea Kirby was involved.

Comp looks great.

groovypanda, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

New Bob and Pete comp soon

A new project from @rocking_bob & @petewiggs due in May. More details shortly 👇 pic.twitter.com/7l7bAeIwXx

— Ace Records (@AceRecordsLtd) March 20, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

Ooooh!

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

wow at that sleeve.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

Fantastic sleeve and title, yeah -- we have details:

http://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-paris-in-the-spring

The events of May '68 are seen as a turning point in France's social history - pictures of the barricades are still potent images. Lines were drawn politically, culturally, socially, and pop music was not exempt.

“Paris In The Spring” is a collection of the new music, put together by Saint Etienne's Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs, that emerged from France between 1968 and the mid-seventies, an extraordinary blend of several previously independent strains – French chanson and yé -yé, American jazz and funk, British chamber pop - shot through with the era's underlying mixture of optimism, uncertainty and darkness. This is the first collection of its kind, released on the 50th anniversary of the Paris uprising.

Serge Gainsbourg – a jazz pianist with a chanson past and a pop present – was in a position to play a key role in soundtracking France in flux over the next five years. His “Histoire de Melody Nelson”, with its heavily atmospheric arrangements by Jean-Claude Vannier, was the acme of this new, unsettling French sound. “Paris In The Spring” includes other equally dazzling Vannier arrangements (for Léonie) and Gainsbourg compositions (for Jane Birkin and Mireille Darc).

Prior to 1968, sixties French pop had been dominated by yé -yé, the country's unique brand of upbeat pop, a world of primary colours, mini-jupes and discotheques (a French invention, after all). Its stars either faded fast after May '68 or adapted to the new era: Jacques Dutronc (‘Le Métaphore’) and France Gall (‘Chanson Pour Que Tu M'aimes un Peu’) discovered a moody side that they had previously kept hidden, and Françoise Hardy released the Brazilian-influenced, after-hours classic “La Question”, from which we have picked ‘Viens’.

New bands like Triangle emerged, influenced by Soft Machine and Gong who became regulars on the Paris club scene. French library music from Janko Nilovic and film soundtracks (François De Roubaix, Karl-Heinz Schäfer) reflected the era's edginess. All are represented on “Paris In The Spring”, making it a continental cousin to Stanley and Wiggs's 2017 Ace compilation “English Weather”.

01 La Victime (Part 1) - Karl Heinz Schäfer
02 Hélicoptère - Mireille Darc
03 Les Aventures Extraordinaires D'Un Billet De Banque - Bernard Lavilliers
04 Roses And Revolvers - Janko Nilovic
05 L'Élu - Ilous & Decuyper
06 La Métaphore - Jacques Dutronc
07 Dommage Que Tu Sois Mort - Brigitte Fontaine
08 Les Gardes Volent Au Secours Du Roi (Alternate version) - Jean-Claude Vannier
09 Looking For You - Nino Ferrer
10 Chanson D'Un Jour D'Hiver - Cortex
11 Viens - Françoise Hardy
12 Couleurs - Léonie
13 Leslie Simone - William Sheller
14 Litanies - Triangle
15 Baleines - François De Roubaix
16 Encore Lui - Jane Birkin
17 Evelyne - Serge Gainsbourg
18 Le Bal Des Laze - Michel Polnareff
19 Lilith - Léonie
20 Ystor - Ys
21 Chanson Pour Que Tu M'Aimes Un Peu - France Gall
22 La Victime (Part 2) - Karl Heinz Schäfer
23 La Chanson D'Hélène - Romy Schneider & Michel Piccoli

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

great cover, will buy

omar little, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

Awesone! I'd been picking up stray moments of this kinda stuff - that Nino Ferrer album that got spotlit in Aquarium Drunkyard, Léo Ferré's 1970 record w/ a rock group - and really welcome a curation of it. Roubaix is an all-time fave, too.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

WANT

Jeff W, Friday, 23 March 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

English Weather was really outstanding - it was probably my most played record of last year - so hopes are high.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 March 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

There isn't a single song on English Weather that is any less than wonderful.

Matt DC, Saturday, 24 March 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De7xjRYWkAAoAk8.jpg

New Bob 80s synth comp. He couldn't clear Kraftwerk or Depeche he says on Twitter

piscesx, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

Track list:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De6hOOrXkAEiDeI.jpg

All gold.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

There's also a Shadows / Hank Marvin / Welch & Farrar comp if that's more your bag.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

Good to see some 80's deep cuts there. And Phil Lynott? Whynott!

henry s, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

He's good when he's exploring genres most people don't know about - showcasing the best stuff that's often never been reissued or available on CD or whatever. But I don't get why he's compiling for Sainsburys like this which are largely tracks that everyone knows in genres that have been comped to death.

everything, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

I kinda agree but otoh people under 30 do buy vinyl and many would probably also be into this sort of primer (somehow only heard 'Videotheque' for the first time last year myself)

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

*puts now that's what i call music 1 on shuffle*

calzino, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

No way anyone under 30 knows Lawn Chairs or Peter Schilling or Bill Nelson or B Movie or some forgotten China Crisis and Buggles singles. Comped to death, really?

piscesx, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

I guarantee a huge % of under 30s know these, at least in Europe. I know lots of under 30s who know this stuff inside out and back to front; a 24 year old friend of mine is an uber Bill Nelson fan. Also, Peter Schilling had a massive revival last year.

Anyhow, Bob is a compilation compling god but come on, this one must have taken 15 mins max. I hope Sainsbury's paid him handsomely.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

Like he needs the money.

everything, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

I'll Stan up for the Hank one, mainly because I'd asked him yonks ago about "Other Shadows tracks that are as great as" Stingray", (album tracks tend towards MOR safety) and he'd suggested some. Trouble is, not that they are rare as in pricey, but rare as in hard-to-find, there's not that many of those singles out there.

So, yeah I'm quite pleased about that one.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link

Gave Paris In The Spring a cursory listen - CD player's in the repair shop so I succumbed and bought the vinyl. A lot of Gainsbourg-adjacent stuff, as was to be expected, I get to feel smug about having played stuff off of Les Gants Blancs Du Diable on my radio show before I knew Stanley's championing it - he's got three tracks from it on here!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 June 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/23/now-pop-compilation-100-that-s-what-i-call-music

Stanley's alternative 100th NOW compilation (with Spotify playlist)

Number None, Monday, 23 July 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Man, Stanley and Wiggs are on a roll with their late 60s themed comps:

https://acerecords.co.uk/bob-stanley-pete-wiggs-present-state-of-the-union-the-american-dream-in-crisis

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link

has "4th of july" ever appeared anywhere else since the "good vibrations" box set? that song really is underheard

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

First time the Beach Boys' Fourth Of July has been on vinyl. Really happy with this one - hats off to @liz_buckley for making light of some very tricky licensing work! https://t.co/Iecrh6CUH9

— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) September 10, 2018

groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link


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