brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

It's a draw just like the previous one. Coin toss! (not making this up)

Aww, it's Paris, soz

Hold on, you listed an odd number of votes for the 2nd round, how was the final round a draw?

That's what's being reported:

Frankfurt is out of the running for the #EBA. Keep up with our live blog https://t.co/K7Ha5zLoc7 pic.twitter.com/GqMzcWKWlT

— POLITICO Europe (@POLITICOEurope) November 20, 2017

Mike Dean's call obv

Haha

@Jim, I wondered that myself! Was going off Politico too. I've no answer for you unfortunately.

The EMA one was also A'dam 13 - Milan 13. Coin tossed.

Golden goal.

One country probably abstained.

Not politics except it is: Paperchase recant on advertising in the Daily Mail.

We’ve listened to you about this weekend’s newspaper promotion. We now know we were wrong to do this - we’re truly sorry and we won’t ever do it again. Thanks for telling us what you really think and we apologise if we have let you down on this one. Lesson learnt.

— Paperchase (@FromPaperchase) November 20, 2017

this Legatum shit is exciting huh

what's this legatum shit?

1/. Ok, by popular demand, here's a quick thread on what you should know about Legatum, #HardBrexit and...Russia

— Liam (@LiamByrneMP) November 19, 2017

Jesus fucking Christ I am going to scream.

The Legatum Institute is probably the world’s most prominent anti-Putin think tank. They employ Anne Applebaum ffs.

so what's your interpretation of this probe into Vote Leave

the sad and tragic ballad of stephen kinnock pic.twitter.com/doZ4HAoUml

— Reel Politik podcast (@reel_politcast) November 20, 2017

Xp, it looks like a grey area - there is no bar on Vote Leave giving money away as long as they don’t dictate how it is spent - though if there is evidence that they were coordinating it would be in breach of the rules. The donation to the DUP looks more dodgy imo as that was pretty clearly done to hide the donor.

hmm

by extension, is carole cadwalladr iyo the last bastion of fearless truthseeking in a world turned sour, a nutcase, or something in between

*hits up Mr.X monologue on youtube* again

This is good, fingers crossed:

More than that; the @haringeycouncil HDV might be finished now. Add to those @ClaireKober supporters the names of the @MayorHaringey and the Chair of Overview & Scrutiny. One other kobinet Cllr could be defeated tonight. Three face trigger ballots this week. #Itisoverforkober https://t.co/aVMoEskgPp

— N17 Creative Action (@MartinBallN17) November 20, 2017

There is a kernel of something interesting with the Cambridge Analytica stuff and people are absolutely correct to be worried about Legatum’s influence - the Chandler brother are scum - but rather than cover the fairly prosaic but essential story of how a convergence of big data and vulture capitalism are more or less openly driving us towards hard Brexit, she seems intent on turning it into conspiracy thriller.

xps

Hyping it up conspiracy-wise not necessarily the wrong approach *cues up Burial*

It is totally the wrong approach when the conspiracy falls apart with five minutes of Googling and the reality is that a pair of foreign oligarchs are driving the Brexit agenda to exploit declining asset values and push deregulation imo. It is missing an open goal.

Applebaum is currently plugging a Ukraine famine book, meh! Bad luck that the 2nd volume of Kotkin's Stalin is out now and is beautifully written, impeccably researched and covers the same period with proper historian craft.

Byrne is perversely almost right with his ‘is a fortune made in Putin’s Russia driving hard Brexit’ tweet - though not for the reason he thinks. The Chandlers made their money pre-Putin and have made a career, since then, on repeating the trick of destabilising countries, buying up assets cheaply, pushing for ‘market reforms’ and flipping their holdings for multiples of what they paid for them. The fact that they are supposedly the most influential think tank wrt May and Brexit should be a scandal - but Byrne and Cadwalladr seem incapable of connecting the dots without routing them through the Kremlin.

do you think the correct focus will be applied by govt/media in a short-term timescale

Lol

i know skinnock was married to a dane: somehow i hadn't taken in that it's the former danish pm

This clip of Stephen Kinnock and @HelleThorning_S is absolutely incredible. Just after the exit poll at 10pm- you can tell who's been a former PM. #LaboursSummer pic.twitter.com/V9WL3OR6yk

— Jack Evans (@jackcevans) November 20, 2017

i never thought he was destined to be a high-flier but now…

is he the white knight of the remoaniacs now or something

he is nothing now

Labour's 'red prince' filmed naked in a bubble bath
Stephen Kinnock, described as Labour's 'red prince', appeared in a little-known Russian television film in 2007

The film ends with Mr Kinnock casting meaningful glances at the two other women. Mr Kinnock has rarely spoken about the scene, other than to describe it as "awkward".

the "red prince" references to him have completely died since the election, as he has in any meaningful sense continued to be alive.

mark, what are those kinnock clips from?

tbf the last searchable google reference to Skinnock as "red prince" was in the Torygraph a year before the election. But he was definitely still acting with carefree Red Prince impunity within the PLP a full year after that. That clip is funny though!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09gtywy/labour-the-summer-that-changed-everything

this be where it be from, Jed.

caveat: apart from that particular moment it is probably shit.

thanks Cal

if i'd've realised it was going to be Kinnock's Spinal Tap i'd've watched that last night

It’s absolutely fucking hilarious. Beyond The Thick Of It levels of hilarity.

A worried Kinnock SR post exit poll: Well it's still very perplexing, Steve...

its okay. it makes a lot of people look like prats, deservedly. But its just so incurious about corbyn. especially in the earlier part when you can clearly see the bbc was gathering footage of corbyn's demise. There's a part where they interview a disabled man who is a non-voter turned labour member under corbyn. I wonder, given all the Tory party has been doing to the disabled population of the UK over the last 7 years if there might be any connection? this program is not really interested in people's stories unless they're a hapless and ridiculous looking mp. still found it very entertaining, stephen kinnock is hard to watch without cringing.

also, unbelievable the moment where helen cadbury appears delighted that all these brightfaced young people have shown up to help her but doesn't make the momentum connection (momentum was very active and organised about sending volunteers off to extreme marginals like hers)

i do think she comes across most sympathetically in the first half mind

wtf I thought these craven blairite shits were supposed to be ‘media-savvy’

I already spent way too much time listening/watching Labour voters who hated Corbyn on the BBC during the election campaign, to not be a bit jaded by much of the first half.

over the last month during my brief periods of lucidity I've been thinking a fair bit about the long history of working class people who hate socialism - it's definitely the second flank of the Blairite project, the useful idiot wing imo but never mind that now, i'll elaborate when I've thought it thru some more

i’d be keen to hear it tbh

I already spent way too much time listening/watching Labour voters who hated Corbyn on the BBC during the election campaign, to not be a bit jaded by much of the first half.

Like every single day of the election campaign.