2017 end of the year lists

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I don't mean to sound off, it disrupts the serenity of the lake!

saer, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

I don't think I read any reviews of the LCD album, so tended to avoid encountering "their status as absolute critical darlings" - and maybe the 'dullness' of the record struck me as actually pretty consistent mood... it's not like I'm keen to really go into a full on defence, but criticising LCD as "music by and for boring rock critics" itself strikes me as a fairly obvious point, perhaps interesting in 2001, less so in 2017. I dunno. That kind of culture strikes me as so marginal these days that it's super easy to take in the record and not be worried about what Mojo Magazine journalists think or whatever.

MikoMcha, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link

sure, but they still have a lot of critical cachet and preferential treatment in terms of exposure, even if the mechanisms of exposure have been diversified. it just seems to be inherently conservative - their reformation, their music, their ethos and the way that they're feted as a Great Band, and maybe that's the right of the music community, but it's not a conservatism i find aesthetically pleasing. ymmv basically

imago, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

The ageing hipster critique makes more sense to me.

MikoMcha, Monday, 20 November 2017 12:03 (six years ago) link

Which may or may not be the same thing. Music for middle aged, highly educated white people, possibly with small families.

MikoMcha, Monday, 20 November 2017 12:05 (six years ago) link

LCD allows middle aged balding journo bro's to imagine they're still down with the kids. "It's got those electro beats right dudes?!?"

except the kids are all over 30. along with Jamie XX it's the new dinner party music. i'll just stick to some Steely Dan or Joni, cheers.

jamiesummerz, Monday, 20 November 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

jeez guys ease up on the projections, if you don't like LCD fine, that hardly makes you experts on people who do

niels, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

I have never heard them before but whenever I do a bit of work in Perm, there is a poster of their records in one of the local bars. From what I can tell their fanbase is made up of hunchbacks, strongmen and local government officials. I don't know what your experience with bureaucracy is but its had a net negative effect on my anxiety levels. Music doesn't exist in a vacuum, we know this from reading

saer, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

sounds about right

niels, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:19 (six years ago) link

Music doesn't exist in a vacuum, we know this from reading

we know this from acoustics tbh

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 20 November 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

Yes, thats it! great book, wonderful prose, cheeky font!

saer, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

Wait why are they publishing lists so early? They should at least wait until December. RT with an album that hasn’t come out yet is so fucking pretentious. I doubt they have advance copies too, the whole thing would have leaked already if they were giving advances.

Ah Kelly Lee Owens on 1 at Piccadilly is cool. Love that one.

Weird to see LCD topping two lists so far, I didn’t remember that album making a huge splash... it seemed to me the response to it was rather lukewarm and people moved on.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 November 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

Wait why are they publishing lists so early?

Nothing new here:

Year-End Critics' Polls 2013 (started by Fastnbulbous on board I Love Music on Nov 18, 2013)

Year-End Critics' Polls 2014 (started by Johnny Fever on board I Love Music on Nov 15, 2014)

Year-End Critics' Polls 2015 (started by bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten) on board I Love Music on Nov 16, 2015)Wait why are they publishing lists so early?

President Keyes, Monday, 20 November 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link

I see... dont know why I remember them as starting in December.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

some of the big ones don't drop until later

we're just talking about record shop lists and Mojo right now

President Keyes, Monday, 20 November 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

It does make sense for stores to do this I guess before people decide on xmas gifts, and black friday around the corner.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

I've given up on anything truly surprising, joyous or devastating ever being a critical consensus fave. I'll try to refrain from further complaints about the overrated entries on the top end. Here's some decent selections from near the ass end of the lists - Daniele Luppi w/ Parquet Courts, The Bug vs. Earth, H.Grimace, Childhood, Damaged Bug, Penguin Cafe, Endless Boogie, Richard Dawson, Andrew Weatherall, Snapped Ankles, Froth, Lowly, Dutch Uncles, Ibibio Sound Machine, Songhoy Blues, Arca, GAS, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith. On the fence: Chmmr, Michael Nau, Cigarettes After Sex, King Krule, Michael Chapman, Metz, Susanne Sundfør.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 20 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Pitchfork's overlooked albums of 2017:

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/overlooked-albums-2017/

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

There was a lot of great music this year but I wasn't aware that anything other than DAMN. was in the running for AOTY. LCD in that slot is pretty ???

President Keyes, Monday, 20 November 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

xpost That Kelly Lee Owens record was overlooked?

President Keyes, Monday, 20 November 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

not by Piccadilly obv

President Keyes, Monday, 20 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

didn't really feel like that Syd record was overlooked, but maybe "overlooked" means "came out in February and a lot has happened since then"

voodoo chili, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

Between "Chuck Johnson" and "Milo" it's a pretty unfortunate year for Pitchfork bands to be using their real names

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

lmao my favorite album of the year made the overlooked albums. solid

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

lists = death

brimstead, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

Kelly Lee Owens, Actress, DJ Sports and Gaussian Curve all got pretty major props from RA for what it's worth.

MikoMcha, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

Between "Chuck Johnson" and "Milo" it's a pretty unfortunate year for Pitchfork bands to be using their real names

― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, November 20, 2017 10:31 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Milo's real name is Rory Ferreira, maybe he should go back to that

voodoo chili, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

LCD allows middle aged balding journo bro's to imagine they're still down with the kids. "It's got those electro beats right dudes?!?"

except the kids are all over 30. along with Jamie XX it's the new dinner party music. i'll just stick to some Steely Dan or Joni, cheers.

don't care much about the new lcd album but i haven't read a post this bad in a long time.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

"It's got those electro beats right dudes?!?" is like someone trying to draw the Buscemi meme in MS Paint

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

"you are old and trying to be cool"

"i describe music i dislike as 'dinner party music'"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

i heard "how do you sleep" out of context and enjoyed it more than any lcd song i've heard since the early singles

the other singles were all right

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

xpost also f u about balding tbh - not sure what having a full head of hair has to do with the vitality of one's musical taste, samson.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

Guys it's only music calm the fuck down

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

quiet slaphead

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

"you are old and trying to be cool"

"i describe music i dislike as 'dinner party music'"

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, November 20, 2017 10:42 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i'll just stick to music that never gets played at dinner parties, like Steely Dan or Joni"

voodoo chili, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

xp
"How Do You Sleep" is great. not sure about the album as a whole

Dan S, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

that and "emotional haircut" were the only songs that stood out (in a good way) for me

Simon H., Monday, 20 November 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

genuinely enjoyed the baldness of the jamiesummerz post

nashwan, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

sorry, ribaldness

nashwan, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

12 bald men solemnly sitting round a long dining table while their host wanders off to the kitchen to fetch some cheese, each of them straining their ears to catch the LCD Soundsystem record quietly playing on the Rega turntable in the corner. each of them lost in their own post-prandial reverie, as the soft electro beats waft from the speakers like a whisper in the breeze: "you are still down with the kids"

damian green is people (NickB), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I know we're dying to get off this topic but the balding, doughy, white Hold-Steady fan contingent has always been there for LCD since their earliest singles because their songs (cf. "Losing My Edge," "All My Friends") specifically talk about coming to terms with being an aging hipster.

The fact that they stuck with them in 2017 is just a new generation inheriting the boomer tic of thinking your opinions are important/worthwhile and has nothing to do with TEH KIDS, who are busy eating ass and listening to teenage murderers on soundcloud

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

a crazy thought might be that people who liked them then are 16 years older or whatever.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

eating ass?

brimstead, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

assic or dud?

calzino, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

Lol, eating ass is so 2014, grandpa

Frederik B, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

does doughy mean fat btw

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

Eating ass. That explains the shortage of breath mints in my town.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

12 bald men solemnly sitting round a long dining table while their host wanders off to the kitchen to fetch some cheese, each of them straining their ears to catch the LCD Soundsystem record quietly playing on the Rega turntable in the corner. each of them lost in their own post-prandial reverie, as the soft electro beats waft from the speakers like a whisper in the breeze: "you are still down with the kids"

afair this was the final scene of "of gods and men"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

Decibel's Top 40:

40. The Lurking Fear, Out of the Voiceless Grave, Century Media
39. Woe, Hope Attrition, Vendetta
38. Pyrrhon, What Passes for Survival, Willowtip
37. Power Trip, Nightmare Logic, Daymare
36. Ufomammut, 8, Neurot
35. Disharmony, Goddamn the Sun, Iron Bonehead
34. Wormwitch, Strike Mortal Soul, Prosthetic
33. Propagandhi, Victory Lap, Epitaph
32. Farsot, Fail-Lure, Lupus Lounge
31. Napalm Raid, Wheel of War, Self-Released
30. Oxbow, Thin Black Duke, Hydra Head
29. Loss, Horizonless, Profound Lore
28. Lock Up, Demonization, Listenable
27. With the Dead, Love from With the Dead, Rise Above
26. Dreadnought, Awake in Sacred Waves, Sailor
25. Cannibal Corpse, Red Before Black, Metal Blade
24. Wampyrinacht, We Will Be Watching. Les Cultes de Satan et Les Mysterères de la Mort, Zazen Sounds
23. Midnight, Sweet Death and Ecstasy, Hells Headbangers
22. Pagan Altar, The Room of Shadows, Shadow Kingdom
21. Artificial Brain, Infrared Horizon, Profound Lore
20. Cloak, To Venomous Depths, Season of Mist
19. Akercocke, Renaissance in Extremis, Peaceville
18. Enslaved, E, Nuclear Blast
17. Cormorant, Diaspora, Self-Released
16. Myrkur, Mareridt, Relapse
15. Dodecahedron, Kwintessens, Season of Mist
14. Obituary, Obituary, Relapse
13. Craven Idol, The Shackles of Mammon, Dark Descent
12. Kreator, Gods of Violence, Nuclear Blast
11. Bell Witch, Mirror Reaper, Profound Lore
10. Converge, The Dusk in Us, Epitaph
9. Wolves in the Throne Room, Thrice Woven, Artemisia
8. Full of Hell, Trumpeting Ecstasy, Profound Lore
7. Immolation, Atonement, Nuclear Blast
6. Spectral Voice, Eroded Corridors of Unbeing, Dark Descent
5. Integrity, Howling, For the Nightmare Shall Consume, Relapse
4. Necrot, Blood Offerings, Tankcrimes
3. Pallbearer, Heartless, Profound Lore
2. Spirit Adrift, Curse of Conception, 20 Buck Spin
1. Paradise Lost, Medusa, Nuclear Blast

Simon H., Monday, 20 November 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

I feel more than partly responsible for the direction this thread has gone.

MikoMcha, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

These lists are coming out earlier every year:
https://www.popjustice.com/articles/the-top-33-albums-of-2018/

President Keyes, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

lol

imago, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link


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