Guess: The chart position that the new Morrissey album "Low in High School" debuts at.

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Mr Agreeable review is thrilling.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

Every time Morrissey says some new horrible thing in an interview, two thing invariably happen. First, I feel disheartened and frustrated as a huge fan of his music, bewildered yet again at how out of step he is with the concerns of his own fans, and convinced that he has no one in his life who is not an employee or a sycophant to give him any perspective. You'd think I'd be used to this by now, but I'm not, and I doubt I ever will be.

But then I also feel frustrated by all the people I see issuing their latest denunciation of Morrissey, because I know that many of them are avowed fans of artists whose political views and/or personal behavior are at least as bad as his, if not worse. Admittedly, part of this is just me being defensive. But it's not that I want Morrissey to get a pass. It's more that I wish everyone in music who says or does repulsive things would get the kind of ridicule that Morrissey rightly does.

It reminds me of that Onion article, Man Always Gets Little Rush Out of Telling People John Lennon Beat Wife. There are definitely people who get a little rush out of talking about Morrissey's racism, and now, his idiotic victim-blaming--even as they themselves are unapologetic fans of '70s rock stars whose racial views were dubious at best, and who had sex with untold numbers of underage girls, for example.

This is not passive-aggressively directed at anyone in this thread, by the way. I don't know if it applies to any of you. I'm thinking of other people.

The new album has at least a couple of really good songs on it. "Spent the Day In Bed" still sucks.

JRN, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

nothing morrissey ever does really seems out of character to me. he strikes me as amazingly consistently annoying, personally, since at least 1992 or so. in fact I can think of no other rock star who has let more of his fans down on a regular basis by simply being himself.

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

Bloke is self centred. That is it.

Mark G, Sunday, 19 November 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

No matter how horrible anything Morrissey says, it's still likeable than those bald fuckwads Quantick or Stubbs have ever managed

PaulTMA, Monday, 20 November 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

akm otm

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 20 November 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

can't we all agree that he's a loathsome racist and have done with it, perhaps that way there's a chance we never have to hear from him ever again

Neil S, Monday, 20 November 2017 08:29 (six years ago) link

"If you go through history, almost everyone is guilty of sleeping with minors." c'mon Moz

throughout history most people ate meat too

He's an incorrigible racist but at least he isn't bald

Oh wait

treeship: a year in the life (wins), Monday, 20 November 2017 10:51 (six years ago) link

Lesson from history: full-barnet fascist vegetarians are more of fucking horrible influence than slapheads. nb: Morrissey is a complete twat and I hope he dies.

calzino, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

why so ppl always say mean things about bald people it kind of hurts my feelings sometimes tbh

I try not to be sensitive about it because I be realize most men that still have hair will lose it and eventually go bald so they kind of need to distance themselves from it but still

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

So is this out yet? what ended up being the chart position for this album? Or is he tweeting stupid shit once again to remind people he has a new album out?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

Ah not tweeting sorry just saying stupid shit

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

The album is out, the chart position will be as of Friday.

Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

also,

Now would be a really bad time to reform The Smiths...

Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

i wish that queen is dead reissue had instrumental versions. esp of some girls are bigger than others.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 20 November 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

shakedown otm

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 20 November 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

baldy bastards

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 November 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

It's always weird to see anyone focus on chart positions in the 21st Century.

― yesca, Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

having had the (dubious) pleasure of reading morrissey's memoir he is extremely concerned with chart placement and i will be very glad if this underperforms for that reason.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 November 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

Just when I think Morrissey can't possibly come out with anything more stupid than he has previously, he suddenly goes and outdoes himself. I often wonder if he's always held these views and just become less concerned with keeping his trap shut or if this stuff was a post-Smiths development - and if so, I wonder what actually had led him to have these views? There's also the idea that he's deliberately trolling everyone as some kind of fucked up promo campaign for his new record, but it's all been going on for too long now and I think he genuinely believes the shit he comes out with.

At this stage, there's a wide gulf in attitude between Morrissey and his increasingly disillusioned fanbase.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 20 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

His self centered ness chimed with people when they had similar problems.

Now it doesn't.

Mark G, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

It's true, we all used to be insane racists.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Monday, 20 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Album is number 2 in the midweeks (UK), behind Paloma Faith.

Pretty sure the Mr Agreeable review was more entertaining the album will be.

michaellambert, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

TS: Precious vegetarian fascist twats you can't fucking stand: Oswald Mosley vs Hitler vs Rustle fucking Brands vs Morrissey vs Stafford Cripps (token communist vegetarian, who liked to eat them raw - died in his 60's btw!)

Gonna have to start FP'ing the ILX baldists. NAGL shaming folk for a genetically inhairited part of their ageing process.

calzino, Monday, 20 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

You missed Charles Manson from that list.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

#5

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 24 November 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

ha

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 November 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Friday, 24 November 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

Get in!

The buttermilk of Beelzebub (Tom D.), Friday, 24 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

A (Spanish) guy I know on Facebook is a Morrissey fan :( so I've been reading comments from Moz fans over the last few days concerning his Kevin Spacey comments: these people are completely insane, it's like they're in a cult or something.

The buttermilk of Beelzebub (Tom D.), Friday, 24 November 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Yeah, he seems to be quite good at inspiring that sort of thing in people.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 24 November 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

,Five!

I mean, I understand Paloma Faith might show him a clean pair of heels, but.

Mark G, Friday, 24 November 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

Well, he's beat Taylor, Sheeran and Orbison.

Just that Sam, BallBoe and Tokey...

Mark G, Friday, 24 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

That is truly glorious. I'm pretty sure he expected it to go at least Top 2. Although not surprising given I imagine the midweeks were before people knew about the Spacey comments? It's his second lowest-peaking solo album as well.

Custard Cream, Friday, 24 November 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Studio album, I should say.

Custard Cream, Friday, 24 November 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

Wow so people in the UK truly love him huh? Even 5 seems yo high for me and the fact that it’s his lowest scoring so far... had no idea he still had that many fans of his solo work.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 24 November 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

As much as I want to join in celebrating the well deserved failure of this album, the sales were 25,728 which is an improvement over his last album which sold 18,762 in the first week. It's a depressing thought that he's gained any kind of popularity in the last three years. I'm sure he'll just see the chart position and release that angry statement before quitting the label before the end of the month.

The most amusing part is that he went in at number five, that's just three places higher than Shed Seven managed the previous week. Weird times.

kitchen person, Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

Wow so people in the UK truly love him huh?

25,728 people do.

The buttermilk of Beelzebub (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 November 2017 08:08 (six years ago) link

probably got a bunch of EDL lads buying it just on principle

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 November 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

Disappointing Iron Maiden performance amid all of that. If they'd beaten him I'd have pissed myself laughing.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link

I saw that the Shed Seven album dropped from 8 to 100

Mark G, Saturday, 25 November 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

Shed Seven album's sold slightly more in two weeks than their last one sold in 16 years. The new one's only sold about 15,000, mind.

michaellambert, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

The fact that there was any demand whatsoever for a new Shed Seven album is a stain on this great nation.

Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

i have at least a couple of friends who still love that band *shrug emoji*

who says no to mentals? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

I have a cousin who is in a wedding band who described them as "Yorkshire's finest: The brilliant Shed 7" recently. Fucking seriously man!

calzino, Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

i saw the S7 album in the racks this week and did a double take.
expected it to be a self released/low budget thing, but no .. major label release.

mark e, Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

Aw yeaaaaah:

DonaldJTrumpJr liked this tweet: https://t.co/HtDG77MrnV

— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) November 27, 2017

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

really hoped that was going to be a Tweet about Shed 7

Big Pred aka (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 November 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

what's the verdict on morrissey according to ilx? is he racist or not?

http://www.nme.com/news/music/morrissey-kill-vermin-trump-2163033

come on ilx get yr act together

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Yes, he's a racist.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link


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