David Sylvian S/D

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I'm getting an error with that link. What is the track/performance?

Just a random anecdote: A few weeks ago I was in a bar in Roppongi that seemed to be dedicated to and frequented by people who enjoyed early 80's music. The bartender decided to throw on something decidedly not early 80's: 'Adolescent Sex' by Japan. When I expressed my delight that I was actually hearing ANYONE EVER playing and enjoying this album in public, we sat and listened to the whole thing on a fantastic sound system. Such a wonderful little moment of life.

yesca, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

This this:

https://youtu.be/I9vybTMXsFg

It’s Wasn’t I Joe.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

is that Ryoji Ikeda?

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Masakatsu Takagi on live video projections. It was just DS and Steve Jansen playing the music.

doug watson, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

Wasn't I Joe is a total classic.

His best unreleased track?

mr.raffles, Monday, 20 November 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

If not, it's damn close.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

It's terrific. I'm still holding out some hope that one day we'll get to hear Sylvian's "watery, slowed-down" version of Propaganda's "Duel" that may or may not only exist in Paul Morley's head. (During PM's brief attempt to get Sylvian to produce them; he wrote the essence of p-Machinery, played on it, but that was about it).

Michael Jones, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

Holy cow, new unheard Sylvian from one of my favorite periods! Thanks for posting this, any other unreleased gems floating around the ether?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

Also, where's the sample from?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

a beckett play, Eh Joe

yes, this is absolutely one of his best unreleased songs (though I guess that DVD of the performance was an official release? dunno. no idea if a studio version of this was ever attempted). It's also the most incredibly sad and depressing thing Sylvian ever recorded

akm, Monday, 20 November 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

why is The Healing Place from Gone to Earth the most listened to David Sylvian track on Spotify? was it in a movie or a tv show?

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

Inclusion on a Spotify playlist.
I think there are a couple of chill instrumentals w disproportionate play counts in his top 10, right?

mr.raffles, Saturday, 2 December 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

yes, i wondered about that. I've only just started using spotify so i'm not sure how all of that works.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

Silver Moon Over Sleeping Steeple has even more plays in the US. And I was asking myself just the same question this morning.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 2 December 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Happy 60th, Sylvo!

mr.raffles, Saturday, 24 February 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

the RSD reissue of Dead Bees on a Cake with tracks he put on Everything and Nothing goes a long way toward redefining that album IMO, though it's weird he chose a photo of him an Ingrid for the cover; I know it's their 'love' album but given how awful the divorce sounded on Blemish...maybe he's feeling nostalgic. Anyway, the E&N tracks were so strong they really balance out the duffers here like "Krishna Blue". And let no one ever say the man doesn't know how to end an album: Darkest Dreaming is one of his very best songs.

akm, Sunday, 29 April 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link

Dead Bees on a Cake is one of the worst album title I've ever heard.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 29 April 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

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Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 29 April 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

well true but the album is better than the title

akm, Sunday, 29 April 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link

they really balance out the duffers here like "Krishna Blue"

Totally disagree there. I'm a massive fan of everything Sylvian did & rank Krishna Blue as one of his very best songs.

Valentijn, Sunday, 29 April 2018 07:10 (five years ago) link

I too think KB is one of his best, but really, not much sense in personal taste battles anyway. A good album is a good album. You may like one song more than another, but if you’ve lived long enough with it, one song leads to another there, so all will be good in the end.

I love the title, I think it’s terrific and suits the music to a T, pretty much as is always the case with Sylvian. He explained why he chose it well enough in period interviews some 20 years ago.
When the cd first came out, I was sorely disappointed - it took years to come around on it. I remember back then I thought the title and the original cover were the best things about it, and that they deserved better music.

Max Florian, Sunday, 29 April 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

Darkest Dreaming is one of his very best songs.

― akm,

Nice to see you single out Darkest Dreaming. Sometimes I think it might be my favourite song he's ever recorded, including Japan.

kitchen person, Sunday, 29 April 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

one thing to note though is that this RSD pressing is fucked, there are no fill issues on many of them (including my side 2). don't know if universal will take them back or not, but considering I paid thirtyfive pounds for it I hope so.

akm, Monday, 30 April 2018 02:55 (five years ago) link

I remember back then I thought the title and the original cover were the best things about it, and that they deserved better music.

Funnily enough as a pretty intense fan of BT / GTE / SoTB / RTC, when DBoaC came out I was OK with the title but loathed the cover art (and still do). That plus the "café light" arrangements of many tracks and Chavez' frankly questionable voiceovers really put me off Sylvian for a while. When I read about this reissue I made a playlist of the new version and was pleased to find I actually like quite a lot of the album after all.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 03:02 (five years ago) link

It's a constant ongoing argument I have with myself what I think David Sylvian's best is. The choice always changes, but the three things that are always in consideration are: Secrets of the Beehive, Rain Tree Crow, and Dead Bees on a Cake.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 30 April 2018 03:38 (five years ago) link

beehive vs gone to earth has been the eternal internal argument for me

ciderpress, Monday, 30 April 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link

i think "a fire in the forest" out-darkest-dreamings "darkest dreaming" for me

ciderpress, Monday, 30 April 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link

I sometimes think of Rain Tree Crow as Sylvian's attempt to make Laughing Stock.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link

"i think "a fire in the forest" out-darkest-dreamings "darkest dreaming" for me"

yeah those are the two closers I was thinking of. sublime.

akm, Monday, 30 April 2018 12:34 (five years ago) link

I sometimes think of Rain Tree Crow as Sylvian's attempt to make Laughing Stock.

It was released a few months before Laughing Stock though. I think of it as more DS bringing his improv/chance approach from the Czukay sessions into his old band and seeing where that went. With a few gorgeous, conventionally constructed songs in there too.

Michael Jones, Monday, 30 April 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

to me it sounds much more like music in between ambient and world in the vein of what eno, byrne, gabriel, hassell etc. were doing in the 80s. "laughing stock" is a completely different beast i think. it has got this holy & spiritual vibe which i do not feel in "rain tree crow".

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

Huh. I bought RTC on release but only got into LS a few years later - shows what I know!
And yeah I remember the press and the liner notes being big on the improvised nature of the sessions. A pretty interesting way to reform a band, can't think of anyone else who did it that way.
And agreed, Alex, LS is the vision of a seer, whereas RTC is more abstract musings. Sylvian has always been exquisitely emotionally guarded, part of the allure I guess.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link

Still think the albums are in the same sonic territory, albeit polished for RTC and raw for LS.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

He's been doing his first interviews since 2012 or so lately for the Czukay reissue.
A long three-pager was just posted in a Japan facebook group from Electronic Sound mag. Plus, something in this month's Uncut too.

Also, his website's GDPR email could possibly refer to new music this year, if you're feeling especially optimistic. Just as likely it means nothing though!

"After what has been a brief break davidsylvian.com is once again updated and fully functional. There’ll be exciting news coming from the site throughout the year.
We would like to stay in touch with you regarding all new releases/rereleases, news and publications by, or concerning, David Sylvian."

mr.raffles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

His Twitter feed is intriguing.

djh, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

i am excite

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

there was somethign posted to the japan/sylvian FB group this morning and then swifly deleted, didn't catch what it was but it was a red image with something about news coming about something this year?

akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

Yeah. The red image is from the email that went out today. Text is in my post above.

His twitter feed is great. How else would you find out he's buddies with Anton Newcombe!

mr.raffles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Found a pristine copy of the reissued Alchemy CD at Half-Price books yesterday, score. Based on the person upthread who hates it also hating the instrumental sides of Gone to Earth, which are my all-time favorite Sylvian sides, I'm guessing I'm going to like it!

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

You're in for a treat.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

yeah that is good stuff

akm, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

I'd rank most of Sylvian's instrumentals in the interesting-to-pleasant range, the exceptional ones are on Gone to Earth (and Japan records). They're a mostly more retiring than I prefer.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

The few instrumentals on rain tree crow are pinnacle stuff IMO

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

"Red Earth" is a nice one on that record, a little more outgoing than the others.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 01:47 (two years ago) link

So I've been listening to Alchemy the past couple of days and really enjoying it, but couldn't figure out why Words with the Shaman sounded so wacky... then I looked at the liner notes and oh, it's Jon Hassell! Should have guessed.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link

My fav tracks (predictably) are the Stigma of Childhood and Steel Cathedrals, it'd be worth the price for Stigma of Childhood alone.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link

By "wacky" you mean "awesome", right?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 June 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

haha more like "I know this isn't David Sylvian or like Fripp or Nelson, who is doing this? (checks liner notes) ah of course, this is some Fourth World noises"

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Twinkle3 ft David Sylvian and Kazuko Hohki - Upon This Fleeting Dream

https://cortizona.bandcamp.com/album/upon-this-fleeting-dream

StanM, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:42 (one year ago) link


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