Is "Hey Jealousy" the best rock song of the 90s?

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How is Gin Blossoms not power pop!?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link

They’re really good at it too. Not song of the decade good but definitely competent at making catchy power pop melodies

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:29 (six years ago) link

Hey Jealousy is a melancholy power pop song.

Why you gonna give me the runaround?

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

Is there an actual powerpop scene? In the UK its always felt like a descriptor rather than a genre

I assumed so. I've heard of clubnights and festivals, there have to be a few mailing lists out there somewhere.

naus, Sunday, 19 November 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Sorry but it's "Watch That Girl Destroy Me"

Sorry but it's "Watch The Girl Destroy Me" :)

geoffreyess, Sunday, 19 November 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

I think of power-pop as existing only in a non-pop scene and not the radio. The most hook-driven thing in the indie club: Sloan, etc.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

i read that the gin blossoms were pretty influenced by tommy keene (eighties jangle/college rock power pop dude) whom everybody should check out. he's pretty underrated.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

Tommy Keene rules
those first two Possum Dixon albums were very good

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

guys we all know the best song is Bug Powder Dust

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

is that a cocktail

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

https://youtu.be/trbvx1U6Ry8

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

Is this what it’s all devolved to

Did they even have guitars

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

Best 90s power pop rock song award goes to aphex twin’s tamphex hedphuq mix

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

Voted yes. There are days where I prefer "Winona" or "I Think I'm Paranoid", but most days it's "Hey Jealousy".

dorsalstop, Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I like coffee and I like tea
But I can't stand "Hey Jealousy"

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

I think of power-pop as existing only in a non-pop scene and not the radio. The most hook-driven thing in the indie club: Sloan, etc.

― ... (Eazy)

Big Star?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

those first two Possum Dixon albums were very good

I like the third one, too.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link

Hey Jealousy is a melancholy power pop song. None of the other suggestions are melancholy power pop songs.


The OP did not ask "Is 'Hey Jealousy' the best melancholy power pop song of the 90s?"

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

possum dixon is such a good example of wrong place/wrong time. they would have been way more popular in the mid eighties, when the post-punk was h o t. (though there's also something kinda nineties about 'em too i guess)

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

lovefool is better than "hey jealousy" and all other songs

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

i still do not think "hey jealousy" is as good as "found out about you" which like... could be the best song of the nineties. there's this coda between the guitar playing and those highly depressing, damaged-romantic lyrics by doug hopkins that you can't help but pay attention too. the way those jangly chords kinda fade-in and out like a bad dream. it's very mysterious sounding even if it's a top billboard alt hit or whatever.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

the video of them in the dark with the lead singer guy wearing a turtle-neck and moping around kinda furthers that vibe

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

the reason these songs (hey jealousy and found out about you) are so good is because they were written by the dude who got kicked out of the band and killed himself.

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

Lovefool is awesome! But not a rock song?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

(which was to say: I don't think anyone else in the band is/was as talented a songwriter as him and it's telling that their best songs were written by this alcoholic depresso who they kind of fucked over though I'm sure working with him was next to impossible)

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

didn't they force him to hand over the rights to his songs just before he killed himself?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

oh yeah. even besides the mythology of him kiling himself, there is most definitely some great songwriting talent there. all of the lyrics are very biting and personal and it has an effect on you when you listen. even way afterwards, when he was kicked out and just living in arizona or whatever, it seemed like they were sorta... trying to write songs in his vein? because they were a popular nineties machine band and trying to be rock stars and stuff. it's a pretty deep story.

like... the most i hear about this band in this current decade is when they appear on the train guys podcast and i think one of the members said "we want to reach the commercial popularity of nickelback" or something in an interview. they dug their own grave.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

from the "dusted" album and the live videos you could see they could have been a good post-replacements/r.e.m band and then just became victims of trying to be on the charts and making money. i definitely like some of their other songs way after that (til i hear it from you is dope) but idk these dudes made the wrong decisions and now they get compared to vertical horizon and shit.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

You Gin Blossoms and power pop fans should check out the Goo Goo Dolls song (yes those Goo goo dolls) “Aint That Unusual”.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

Don’t sleep on “Bittersweet Surrender”

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

GGD prior to and thru A Boy Named Goo is worthwhile

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

"Jealousy" by Natalie Merchant is better tbh. Both good songs tho.

J. Sam, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

If we're talking 90s songs w/ the word "jealousy" in the title

J. Sam, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

goos covered this tommy keene song too (which is excellent. sounds like some of the mats best stuff)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNqQdtKZww

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link

Hey jealousy (92 version) is not power pop

If anything pj’s black (which i suggested above) is a “melancholic power pop song”

what is this

alpine static, Sunday, 19 November 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 20 November 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

aphasia maybe? xp

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Monday, 20 November 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

xp it's the harmonies

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 November 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

Ya it’s funny i was just driving to get some food right now and played the 92 version

Normally i would be an asshole in situations like this but i can kind of see why people call it power pop

But it’s not

It really is the vocal delivery as someone mentioned. I listened to black as comparison and his vocals are just a lot more powerful and without any harmonies

Gonna have my pork burrito now

Peace homeboys

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 20 November 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

can't tell if serious

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 November 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

Heard The Jayhawks' goddamn "Save It for a Rainy Day" and instead of throwing my shoe at the work Sonos speaker am posting here.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

Checking further, I guess it didn't come out until 2003 and so falls more under Americana, but it sure sounds like goddamn 90s Friends rock to me.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

It is in the 10 or 15 best '90s rock singles which is close enough.

billstevejim, Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

smh at the number of not-that-great songs mentioned in this thread.

billstevejim, Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

rip tommy keene

geoffreyess, Monday, 27 November 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

ACTUALLY

"Follow You Down" is the best rock song of the 90s.

Shitpost in Opposition (King Boy Pato), Monday, 27 November 2017 10:56 (six years ago) link

smh at the number of not-that-great songs mentioned in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/utzTCyo.png

Big Pred aka (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 November 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

Earlier in the thread tho lol

xp Oh damn, but "Til I Hear It From You" was so fire.

I think I've now heard "Allison Road" at Walgreens, Marshalls and Whole Foods. I would guess it's G-Bloss's biggest spinner in retail stores.

billstevejim, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

no

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 27 November 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

allison road is a tom petty song with a gen x shrug

hackshaw, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link


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