The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

fair in its way, any highlights from what you saw of the q&a?

we’re in the most monotonous grey waste period of film i’ve lived through right now

Carol Burnett as Joan Crawford was a classic though no?

but intentionally funny. Young's look was risible, and her dialogue was making me roll my eyes even in the clips used in the sequel.

D.V. just had a lot of standard praise for Deakins and the effects people, and talked about how he brought in Hans Zimmer late bcz he needed a Vangelis vibe. He needs to go back to doing the stuff he did in Canada.

I'm amazed I'm not seeing more writing about the backward sexual politics of this thing, despite the foreseeable "child" countertwist.

i saw the new one over thanksgiving break (on literally the last day it was playing where my parents live) and i straight-out loved it. great movie theater movie.

ie big, loud, and ugly

yeah i'm glad i saw it in the cinema. the sound alone is just flat-out amazing. and the glitched-out nightclub scene would not have been as great on my 27-inch TV.

i can't remember if i mentioned this yet or not but i did notice jaggy pixels on the introductory text, which ironically would probably not have been visible on my TV but eh. it's weird that digital projection is still sort of shit? i also looked for ryan gosling's personality really closely but when i zoomed my eyes in real close it was just de-rezzed artifacts

I'm amazed I'm not seeing more writing about the backward sexual politics of this thing

Why invite that torrential backlash of nerdbro ragegarbl on yourself over a movie everybody will have forgotten by the time the next Star Wars movie comes out?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/denis-villeneuve-blade-runner-2049-dune

Some critics accused the “world” in Blade Runner 2049 of being hostile to women.

I am very sensitive to how I portray women in movies. This is my ninth feature film and six of them have women in the lead role. The first Blade Runner was quite rough on the women; something about the film noir aesthetic. But I tried to bring depth to all the characters. For Joi, the holographic character, you see how she evolves. It’s interesting, I think.

What is cinema? Cinema is a mirror on society. Blade Runner is not about tomorrow; it’s about today. And I’m sorry, but the world is not kind on women.

There’s a sense in American cinema: you want to portray an ideal world. You want to portray a utopia. That’s good—dreams for a better world, to advocate for something better, yes. But if you look at my movies, they are exploring today’s shadows. The first Blade Runner is the biggest dystopian statement of the last half century. I did the follow-up to that, so yes, it’s a dystopian vision of today. Which magnifies all the faults. That’s what I’ll say about that.

(That first line is the interviewer)

that answer is some bullshit

dumbstopia

The female characters in this were cardboard af. And the entire holographic girlfriend thing didn't work as far as I was concerned.

strike *female* in my last post and it's probably closer to the truth.

Trying to remember, was Robin Wright the only non-robot (that we know of) woman in this movie?

i think that's right

luv wasn't cardboard! or at least she was the sort of cardboard that gives you the worst papercut of all time

on imdb i think they said there are only three characters who are not replicants (not counting the question mark of deckard) - robin wright, edward james olmos, and ... someone else i'm forgetting

i guess jared leto

i saw this in the theatre in 3d and it looked and sounded very good but it was just a load of blah. really washed over me.

Does Deckard's daughter count as a non-replicant? She wasn't manufactured.

yeah but Leto has some kind of trans-human brain stem implant

I'm sure he really does, and that it's long since on the fritz.

I finally got around to seeing this on two nights ago. Visually lovely, if sparse - the original had a claustrophobia that's absent here. Loved the nods to industrial landscape photographer Edward Burtynsky. The screenplay has issues, trimming would have improved matters. Not so sure its misogynist (there are impactful female characters with their own motivations), but it does cater to hetmale eyes.

Mostly just came here to post this promotional ephemera, which offer post BR/pre BR 2049 vignettes, the first in very Ghost in the Shell anime style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEPwVo8xZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsS3nhRRzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9Os8cP_gg

some discussion on those upthread

the whole movie shoulda been about bautista bot.

i actually loved this. i got complaints but they’re all minor

Yeah same. I want the art book.

I'm amazed I'm not seeing more writing about the backward sexual politics of this thing, despite the foreseeable "child" countertwist.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:11 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Morbs, it's out there, if not via the highest-profile outlets.

qualms were essentially:

- filters filters filters. i feel like the first one had way more variety of color
- the final action setpiece was exciting and all but everything just felt a little bit off. *harrison ford struggles to get out of handcuffs for ten minutes*
- the dialogue wasn't bad generally but i feel like robin wright especially had to struggle through some clunkers
- narrative is tied up a little too neatly for my taste

however:
- jared leto wasn't so bad after all imo, the labored delivery worked for me. i guess it helped, as other people of mentioned, that he's only in this movie for ten minutes
- ford was really, really excellent
- beautiful shots, beautiful scenery, all of which take 1000 years to get through = my kind of movie

For those who might not be familiar with Burtynsky (visually quoted in the San Diego junkyard/orphanage scenes):

http://artsintherightplace.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/tpg-7-eb.jpg

I wouldn't mind an entire movie set in these sort of spaces. Alas BR 2049 had an aesthetic that worked in the landscapes, but was just too sparse and uninhabited in many of the interiors.

mark s mentioned him upthread iirc (or maybe i am just remembering our chat after seeing it!)

this is the best thing i’ve read about the movie so far http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/10/14/the-poetry-of-blade-runner-2049

agree with brad (got to read that article)

https://itself.blog/2017/12/12/2019-the-voight-kampff-test/

A still of Beijing's Pangu 7 Star Hotel enshrouded in smog, 2013. Photo by Zuma Press: pic.twitter.com/HC5siGdAmR

— Ryan Stewart (@crsryan) October 17, 2014

nice

saw this last night, ended up kinda loving it to my surprise

the dialogue often isn't great but it's utterly beautiful to look at and in its themes and atmosphere it felt really properly philip k dick in a way that i don't think anything other than a scanner darkly has onscreen

Yes after being on a pkd binge last year I too thought this was more akin to his style than anything I've really seen on film.

Oh boy!

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/blade-runner/news/a846834/ridley-scott-has-plans-another-blade-runner-sequel/

(This after he complained in another interview that 2049 was too long...which I agree with.)

dude can’t make anything that’s a) under 2 hrs long or b) doesnt require a 3hr directors cut rerelease to “explain” it original intent so idk maaaaaybe pot calling the kettle black

I hope it all just collapses into a full Alien/Blade Runner crossover and Michael Fassbender patiently explains to Jared Leto that he will do the fingering.

Slash Runner 2286

i hope it takes more of a “mr hollands opus” approach complete with a full orchestra of recorders

god, still haven't watched this. just never got around to it in theaters, and the past few weeks have been feeling hesitant about it due to length and people being kind of 'meh' on it. maybe bite the bullet tomorrow night.

it comes with the bizarro gazzara guarantee!

It's long, and every scene struggles to know when to end, but it's kinda beautiful and dreamy too.

Oh boy!

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/blade-runner/news/a846834/ridley-scott-has-plans-another-blade-runner-sequel/

(This after he complained in another interview that 2049 was too long...which I agree with.)

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, January 7, 2018 5:08 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude can’t make anything that’s a) under 2 hrs long or b) doesnt require a 3hr directors cut rerelease to “explain” it original intent so idk maaaaaybe pot calling the kettle black

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 7, 2018 5:53 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ya in light of his recent complaints about indie darlings getting Star Wars budgets this comes off like a hilarious ego trip

akm please to listen on headphones or a system turned up loud

imo whatever chemistry ridley had was not related to the things he thinks were the prime ingredients