Is "Hey Jealousy" the best rock song of the 90s?

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voted "yes"

alpine static, Sunday, 19 November 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

this is when they were indie rock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YL9YfmlhyU

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link

This song just came on the muzak at Kroger.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link

Buffalo Tom's '90s output >>> everything else in this genre.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

Also, I feel like the original Friends soundtrack could be the definitive document of this era and style of music:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Friends

(the 1999 follow-up comp, meanwhile, attests to the sheer diffuseness of popular music at the end of the decade)

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

ehhh that's a bold claim, is it just because j. mascis recorded them? that dude had a gruff ass voice and a lot of their stuff is pretty rote. gin blossoms, however, are sugar-y and exciting even if it's, you know, nineties blah rock.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link

Man, if you ever want to prove to scientists that 1989 and 1992 are in different decades despite being only three years apart, just play 'em those Dusted/New Beautiful Experience versions.

pplains, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

they're the bubblegum mats

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

Ross goes for the whiskey for Rachel's father

Playing at a party at Monica's, when Ross pours whiskey for the father of Rachel.

Joe appears with a volleyball ball.

brimstead, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

hey can we keep it copacetic in here

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

imma keep it copper blue

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

thanks sugar

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

Local H bruh!

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link

Keep it up and yr bound for the floor

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 November 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

How Bizarre, semi charmed life, that everclear song, cigarettes and alcohol

― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Saturday, November 18, 2017

Not Gin Blossoms. Also horrible. These are all the worst. Weirdly, I've heard "how bizarre" twice in the past week, both times in a CVS. But different CVS's...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 19 November 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

It is telling in the remake of Wings of Desire as City of Angels, you get "Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls instead of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

earlnash, Sunday, 19 November 2017 06:25 (six years ago) link

Can't stop singing "bravely bold sir robin ran away" to the verses of "found out about you."

Bravely bold sir robin ran away / bravely bold sir robin ran ahhh-WAY-HEY-HEYYY

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 19 November 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link

hwarf

yesca, Sunday, 19 November 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link

Hey Jealousy is a melancholy power pop song. None of the other suggestions are melancholy power pop songs.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 November 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

always wondered if the powerpop scene claims the gin blossoms as one of their own.

naus, Sunday, 19 November 2017 07:48 (six years ago) link

Is there an actual powerpop scene? In the UK its always felt like a descriptor rather than a genre

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 November 2017 07:53 (six years ago) link

The concept, taillights fade, sick of myself, I should have known,

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 07:55 (six years ago) link

Hey jealousy (92 version) is not power pop

If anything pj’s black (which i suggested above) is a “melancholic power pop song”

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:05 (six years ago) link

How is Gin Blossoms not power pop!?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link

They’re really good at it too. Not song of the decade good but definitely competent at making catchy power pop melodies

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:29 (six years ago) link

Hey Jealousy is a melancholy power pop song.

Why you gonna give me the runaround?

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

Is there an actual powerpop scene? In the UK its always felt like a descriptor rather than a genre

I assumed so. I've heard of clubnights and festivals, there have to be a few mailing lists out there somewhere.

naus, Sunday, 19 November 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Sorry but it's "Watch That Girl Destroy Me"

Sorry but it's "Watch The Girl Destroy Me" :)

geoffreyess, Sunday, 19 November 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

I think of power-pop as existing only in a non-pop scene and not the radio. The most hook-driven thing in the indie club: Sloan, etc.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link

i read that the gin blossoms were pretty influenced by tommy keene (eighties jangle/college rock power pop dude) whom everybody should check out. he's pretty underrated.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

Tommy Keene rules
those first two Possum Dixon albums were very good

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

guys we all know the best song is Bug Powder Dust

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

is that a cocktail

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

https://youtu.be/trbvx1U6Ry8

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

Is this what it’s all devolved to

Did they even have guitars

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

Best 90s power pop rock song award goes to aphex twin’s tamphex hedphuq mix

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

Voted yes. There are days where I prefer "Winona" or "I Think I'm Paranoid", but most days it's "Hey Jealousy".

dorsalstop, Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I like coffee and I like tea
But I can't stand "Hey Jealousy"

... (Eazy), Sunday, 19 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

I think of power-pop as existing only in a non-pop scene and not the radio. The most hook-driven thing in the indie club: Sloan, etc.

― ... (Eazy)

Big Star?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

those first two Possum Dixon albums were very good

I like the third one, too.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link

Hey Jealousy is a melancholy power pop song. None of the other suggestions are melancholy power pop songs.


The OP did not ask "Is 'Hey Jealousy' the best melancholy power pop song of the 90s?"

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

possum dixon is such a good example of wrong place/wrong time. they would have been way more popular in the mid eighties, when the post-punk was h o t. (though there's also something kinda nineties about 'em too i guess)

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

lovefool is better than "hey jealousy" and all other songs

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

i still do not think "hey jealousy" is as good as "found out about you" which like... could be the best song of the nineties. there's this coda between the guitar playing and those highly depressing, damaged-romantic lyrics by doug hopkins that you can't help but pay attention too. the way those jangly chords kinda fade-in and out like a bad dream. it's very mysterious sounding even if it's a top billboard alt hit or whatever.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

the video of them in the dark with the lead singer guy wearing a turtle-neck and moping around kinda furthers that vibe

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

the reason these songs (hey jealousy and found out about you) are so good is because they were written by the dude who got kicked out of the band and killed himself.

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

Lovefool is awesome! But not a rock song?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

(which was to say: I don't think anyone else in the band is/was as talented a songwriter as him and it's telling that their best songs were written by this alcoholic depresso who they kind of fucked over though I'm sure working with him was next to impossible)

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

didn't they force him to hand over the rights to his songs just before he killed himself?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

oh yeah. even besides the mythology of him kiling himself, there is most definitely some great songwriting talent there. all of the lyrics are very biting and personal and it has an effect on you when you listen. even way afterwards, when he was kicked out and just living in arizona or whatever, it seemed like they were sorta... trying to write songs in his vein? because they were a popular nineties machine band and trying to be rock stars and stuff. it's a pretty deep story.

like... the most i hear about this band in this current decade is when they appear on the train guys podcast and i think one of the members said "we want to reach the commercial popularity of nickelback" or something in an interview. they dug their own grave.

hackshaw, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link


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