REM: Classic or dud?

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"We Walk" was huge for me. It was like that famous quote from Peter Pilbeam's approval of the Beatles in their BBC audition well before they even had their record contract. "Not as rock-y as most, more country and western with a tendency to play music." A "tendency to play music" unrestricted by this genre affinity or that.

timellison, Saturday, 18 November 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Think I only saw them play it once and it was later, on the Pageantry tour. One of my distinct memories of that concert.

timellison, Saturday, 18 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

And the eerie pool sounds rule.

albvivertine, Saturday, 18 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

idk i think mumur has such a singular vibe that i totally understand why some people think it’s their best. (i’ve thought it was at different points in my life but rn i prefer new adventures)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 November 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

“Listing my religion” at 730 am is something no one should be subjected to

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

"chronic town" > fables > murmur > pageant > green > reckoning > new adventures > automatic > out of time > document > monster > all the rest

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 18 November 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

I can't be arsed to rank them again, all I'll say is the ones that I return to the most are Reckoning, Document, Green, Automatic for the People and New Adventures in Hi-Fi. These have been all-time favourites from the beginning pretty much except for Document which has increasingly become a favourite over the last few years, whereas Lifes Rich Pageant has become less of a favourite.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 19 November 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link

Best imo: New Adventures/Reconstruction/Murmur with Reckoning and Monster close behind.

albvivertine, Sunday, 19 November 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

Oh and maybe Up too. Dullest posts ever but it's kinda interesting to me they revived themselves creatively so well in the mid 90s. There's plenty of good stuff from Life's to Automatic, they just all feel kinda lacking in identity or something.

albvivertine, Sunday, 19 November 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

top 3 albums: Murmur, Lifes Rich Pageant, Automatic for the People

top 3 songs: Harborcoat, Perfect Circle, The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite

ufo, Sunday, 19 November 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

top 3 songs: "stumble", "life and how to live it", "shaking through"

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 19 November 2017 04:53 (six years ago) link

hmm..top 3 tracks=Disturbance at the Heron House, Sweetness Follows, Kohoutek.

campreverb, Sunday, 19 November 2017 05:11 (six years ago) link

Kohoutek laughing the one I love

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 November 2017 05:26 (six years ago) link

Live stream going on right now on their Facebook page of the one show they did post-Automatic for the People release, at the 40 Watt Club. Recently restored video footage - looks and sounds great.

timellison, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

Loving this set.

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

Turns out that 40 Watt set had been previously released--it showed up 3 tracks at a time across 4 Monster CD singles.

Hideous Lump, Monday, 20 November 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link

Speaking of that set...there's now official video, via the band's own YT channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52sMbXI22gg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

Ah, gather this was the Facebook stream. But anyway, here it is.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

awesome. great sound!

always loved stipe's stage presence

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link

a bunch of my friends were there, if I'd have gone to UGA with the rest of them I'd have been there too. a few hung out with the band after the show too, got to meet Mike Mills' parents.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:56 (six years ago) link

i really like the version of "drive"

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

I don't. It's like, let's do "Drive" minus the brooding. What's left? Kinda nothing

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

It has an increased urgency and simplicity I really like.

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

it has a different, more uneasy atmosphere than the studio vers. Not saying it's better or anything

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

It's definitely weird. I've actually never not liked the live version (which afaik always sounded like this) til this time, so maybe I'm just lounging to hear the original

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Thursday, 23 November 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

Longing. Or lounging

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Thursday, 23 November 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

every streetlight reveals a picture in reverse

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 October 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

It gives me joy to know that Mike Mills tried to beat up an audience member at a club in my city and the band did a 21-song triple encore, with 17 covers (including "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" and "Sweet Home Alabama"): https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rem/1985/barrymores-music-hall-ottawa-on-canada-7bd6fac8.html

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

Seeing this thread pop up this morning inspired me to put on "Automatic for the People." It really goes to show what a special band this was that their two most eclectic albums that they also decided not to tour behind turned out to be their two biggest successes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

I've been going back to Fables and Murmur in the last few days.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

The Bingo Hand Job show finally got an official release for Record Store Day but I haven't heard it yet.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

I'm tempted to go with Murmur in the 1983 poll but I haven't heard it in so long. I'll rectify that later today.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

i never understood what people heard in murmur. the other album besides monster i did not get all was reckoning. so dull and unsubtle.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

I like how Murmur murmurs.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

Hm, those early records still evoke something unique for me. You don't like "So. Central Rain"? xp

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

I can't imagine not liking Radio Free Europe

I am actually that strange person, an REM fan who likes the IRS records a hundred times more than Automatic but who doesn't really care for "So. Central Rain" (but for whom Radio Free Europe is a monumental classic, to be clear)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

So Central Rain is great but so are Harborcoat (which won the best REM song of all time in the ILM poll, IIRC) and Rockville. The whole of Reckoning in fact.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

the one that doesn’t float my boat like it should is Fables but it’s a deep catalog, everyone’s gonna have one of those.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

sometimes the bassline in "So. Central Rain" and in particular those four steps b4 the verse are my favoroite thing in the catalog

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

"so. central rain" is probably the one song from reckoning i would save. harborcoat is ok, i kind of like the bouncing rhythm. rockville isn't bad neither. maybe i should give reckoning another chance i haven't listened to it for more than 20 years.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

"Pretty Persuasion"!

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

first 4 tracks are v classic imo

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

When did 10,000 Maniacs (or maybe Natalie solo?) cover "Rockville"? Heard it on NPR Mixtape a couple weeks ago.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

made me think of PAVEMENT song:

Some bands I like to name check,
And one of them is REM,
Classic songs with a long history
Southern boys just like you and me.
R - E - M
Flashback to 1983,
Chronic Town was their first EP
Later on came Reckoning
Finster's art, and titles to match:
South Central Rain, Don't Go Back To Rockville,
Harbourcoat, Pretty Persuasion,
You were born to be a camera,
Time After Time was my least favourite song,
Time After Time was my least favourite song.
The singer, he had long hair
And the drummer he knew restrait.
And the bass man he had all the right moves
And the guitar player was no saint.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

xp was on the "Candy Everybody Wants" single, i think

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

“Letter Never Sent”!

Reckoning is the best

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

XP Yup. Paired w/their Morrissey cover too.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

abjectly insane opinions in this revive

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link


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