seems p obvious why ilm likes oasis again
― imago, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
...because there are more oasis fans here now?
― brimstead, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
lex left!!
no but srsly, it's the growing sense that the 1990s were some sort of irretrievable halcyon era, with oasis their supercharged optimistic champion. it's getting better (man!!) ah if only. we yearn for this imo
― imago, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
i laughed.
― mark e, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
oasis: dumbly heralding the zenith of our species
― imago, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
Whisht willya
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
Does that mean 'Pray go on, visionary!'?
― imago, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
It doesn't feel like we've quite entered into a full-on '90s nostalgia era yet, though. It still feels to me like we're in the era of '80s nostalgia, although the existence of The 1975 pretty much confirms that we're nearing the cigarette butt of that particular era.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
I still don't like Oasis, AMA
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
90s nostalgia is huge. it's quite selective - people aren't getting into Sugar Ray and, i dunno, Filter - but it's been here for quite a while.
Problem for Oasis is that they , nor their countless imitators on council estates throughout britain, never really went away and so it's hard to be nostalgic for anything more than their "heroic" period.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
Which "countless imitators of Oasis on council estates" are selling truckloads of albums or getting mainstream attention or even exist beyond being amateur bands in 2017? Not many, if any.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
The fact of the matter is that for a good number of years, this particular strand of guitar music from the UK has actually been quite unpopular.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
xp. That's what I'm saying. There's no retro appeal to something which has been grindingly omnipresent for a quarter century and no reason to think that it will ever come back.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
I think any recent interest in Oasis over here comes from Liam being a classic tweeter and the Be Here Now reissue to a lesser extent getting some press. I'm not sure people are going to dig much further or deeper.
Blur still has a solid fanbase over here, but they appeal to that Flaming Lips daytime festival neon colored balloon crowd a bit more. I think to get back to an extremely old argument Oasis seems a bit more working class rock so their scene is a bit more narrow and has less "cred."
I might have skewed a bit more Blur a few years ago but I lean Oasis now.
― omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
no working class people in America know who Oasis are
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
"narrow" meaning within the landscape of alt and indie rock in the U.S., I can't speak to the U.K. of course.
― omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
ah yes that's def true. Blur's appeal a bit broader here imo, doesn't hurt that they were clearly more interested in American bands than Oasis was. I suppose that "whoohoo" song is probably on the same level of recognizability as "Wonderwall" in America.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
i feel like i've never NOT heard 'Song 2' played when i've gone to a sporting event in the past decade.
also "working class" is probably not entirely accurate, i think for a lot of festival crowds they're regarded as a bit conservative, more a dad rock band than an alt-indie one. they're not considered to have much in the way of edge or experimentation though i think that's a bit inaccurate; they weren't unwilling to try a few things or play around w/electronica at the time.
― omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
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― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
I don't think any of the members of Oasis - particularly the Gallaghers - were much interested in Oasis being some kind of small indie band with a cult following at any point in their careers, and they were pretty upfront about what sort of band they were from the outset. They wanted to sell records, they wanted to write crowdpleasing anthems, they wanted to play to huge crowds and all the trappings of fame, and for a couple of years they were good at it.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
in America, not so much
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
I agree, but they always seemed to find some way of fucking things up for themselves whenever they were in America. It seemed that every time they went to the US for a couple of years, Liam or someone else in the band would act up on tour and Noel would quit the band and fuck off home for the zillionth time. Noel really wanted Oasis to do well in America, but the rest of the band seemed to treat American tours as a joke.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link
yeah the footage of their American shows in the doc is so hilariously bad, just really half-assed
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
the show when they're on jib in the documentary is absolutely hilarious
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 November 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
yeah that's what I was thinking of
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link
Personally, I am less nostalgic about the 90s than I've ever been. Oasis' work in the 00s ranks as possibly the most sustainedly uninspired run of any once good band ever; though I don't think I ever heard anything from Dig Our Your Soul.
― Freedom, Saturday, 18 November 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I disagree with you about the last two albums. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and Heathen Chemistry I mostly agree, they mostly suck but there's a couple of decent songs on both.
Obviously, they were at their best 1994-1996, but the last two aren't terrible.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 18 November 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
http://78.media.tumblr.com/a8a56cfa988e3c19604cc8c1e05396fd/tumblr_oyzax0yHWN1sl5xsco1_1280.png
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link
hahaha. Also can't get past the fact that the account is called @HummusMem3s meaning that upon it's creation, there likely already was one account in existence decicated to the particular niche of posting memes related to hummus.
― damosuzuki, Thursday, 23 November 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link
this album sounds like shit
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
"roll with it" is a miserable song
"Acquiesce" is a dreadful song with no visible point
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 January 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link
always glad to see "Roll With It" get the hatred it deserves, what a draggy attempt at an anthemic pub-rocker
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link
She's Electric and Underneath the Sky are both unassuming and kind of delightful, and have stronger melodies than the Oasis usual. Soft sentimental spot for the title track. The rest I can give or take - either atrocious or overplayed or both. I used to love Round Are Way but it sounds hugely naff now.
As an aside I have terrible personal experience of Liam (via my partner, who worked with him) and I would (rightfully) be chased out of the house if I ever played them again
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 January 2022 16:50 (two years ago) link
yes go on.....
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link
i like “cast no shadow” quite a bit still, and i think “hey now” is a pretty good slowed down shoegaze song
potentially contrarian opinion but “some might say” is a good chorus that the rest of the song hangs onto by its fingers
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 7 January 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link
I think I’ve got a feeling I’ve lost inside / so take me away
― calstars, Saturday, 15 April 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link