Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

I hear this all the time: "arguably" when "inarguably" is the applicable word. I'm not sure if this because of a complete lack of proportionality, if people get the words confused, or if they're being treated as interchangeable. Example: a news report I heard yesterday that said Da Vinci is "arguably one of the most famous painters ever." Well, no--he's inarguably one of the most famous painters ever; if you want to say he's arguably the most famous or the greatest, then sure, you can argue about that.

I'd prefer "allegedly one of the most famous painters ever"

suspect the issue there is nervous doubling-up of qualifiers - - - "arguably" piles onto knee-jerk use of "one of the..." with neither one having really been thought through.

They're the same word tbh

the different word is "unarguably"

I mean they're not the same word but it's the same sentence

tbh inarguably is a nonsense word in that you might claim that it inarguably means inarguably but it doesn't

It's flammable and inflammable that are interchangeable, right? I can't see arguable and inarguable as anything but opposites. (Webster's treats "inarguably" and "unarguably" as variations of the same word.)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inarguable

Unarguably isn't a word and I mean fuck a Webster if he argues otherwise

unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue, arguably means we live on the internet and have discovered literally nothing is either unarguable or inarguable

Yes it is

i think you'll find

well played deems

arugably

unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue

Having a little trouble getting my head around this. Isn't possible to have an argument because it's so obviously certain (therefore the two words are interchangeable), or isn't possible because...what would be an example of impossibility for some other reason?

Inarguably is a mere rhetorical pose, unarguably if it existed is a technical term

arugably

arugulably

http://cdn.naturallifeenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arugula-leaves.jpg

you're being radicchulous

Speaking of words that annoy you, I'm sorry British people, but I just can't accept calling that stuff "rocket".

it'll soon take off

Having a little trouble getting my head around this

Has a two-hour train journey to work this one out:

The spaceship hurtled into the star. "We're all dead," said the captain to the crew.

i) This was inarguable. There was no escape.
ii) A short time later, it also became unarguable.

you're being radicchulous

― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, November 17, 2017 11:00 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark

i loled

lol kinder

world class, guys

normalization

I'll say it again: weaponize

and the way reporters and columnists jump on neologisms like this with enthusiasm

what word should they be using?

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac) wrote this on thread Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible] on board I Love Everything on 31-May-2017

Normalisation

Stop saying this

some variation on "is this the hill you want to die on?" "i'm fine dying on this hill" "i'm going to die on this hill"

this one has spread like a virus in the past couple weeks, don't know tf why

what word should they be using?

― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 12:17 (five hours ago

Nothing -- silence. When it's their turn to speak on cable TV, stare blankly into the camera.

seriously where did the dying on hills thing come from and how did it spread so quickly

it's military so i blame tombot

it's a decades old english language idiom

Dying on a hill died quite some deaths on hills already. Not particularly new.

I know it’s not a new idiom but it’s spread like wildfire lately gonna do a google analytics thing in a sec

xps

'dying on this or that hill' has been around for at least a couple of decades, but has had an upsurge recently for reasons unknown to me. it will fade into the background again in a few weeks or months, like most faddish phrases.

it's upsurge is probably because taking stances on issues is such a big part of posting on social media and so many people have bad takes and strange hobbyhorses

Fuck horses are dying on the hills too??

where did the dying on hills thing come from

just to clarify, you do understand that choosing to die on a particular hill is a military metaphor for holding a position at any cost, don't you?

clarity is important

yeah yeah i know it's an old term i meant why has it spread so suddenly in pop culture/discourse in the last week or two

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22hill%20to%20die%20on%22

Kamikaze attacks on hills up seventy percent state office would make no comment when approached by this reporter

is this the hill you want me to kill you on

Hill killton

Abe said where you want this killin done
God said up on hilltop 61

“a phenomena”

Criteria instead of criterion.

Not 100% on point in this thread, but in my tiredness the phrase "have sex" just suddenly struck me as odd. The active "have" is already odd to begin with ("I'm having a slice of cake"). But "have sex" is this weird level of abstraction from the act. "Fucking" clearly describes a specific action/activity. "Engaging in intercourse" is more abstracted but it's still clear that you are doing a thing. But "having sex" sounds like some kind of strange, suspended state rather than an action.

xp yes fucking yes

weird xp