Albums you own or used to own from artists that turned out to be awful people.

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Yeah, BEF put Gary in the studio with the Glitter Band, they had never recorded together.

Mark G, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link

G&M's Russell Smith picking up the counterpoint:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/good-art-by-bad-people-why-it-shouldnt-be-thrown-away/article37006883/

doug watson, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

Yeah, Adam and the Ants too. Basically, if you got rid of all the music those early singles influenced, it'd leave a huge black hole in pop music.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

lol, what did Adam and the Ants do? I have no knowledge of them.

how's life, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link

ruined a picnic

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Ruined Eve.

nickn, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

Explains the lack of pants

Evan, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

I couldn't disown The Smiths as they made some of the best pop music ever (cliched but true!) and Johnny Marr's contributions are generally my favourite aspect of the group's songs anyway. Different story with Morrissey's career but I don't think I'd even like it much if he hadn't made the racist comments he has.

R Kelly is a difficult one for me. Knowing just some of the details regarding his repugnant behaviour doesn't stop me enjoying some of the songs, albeit a little less predisposed towards them than beforehand. I suppose I definitely find it easier to disown bad behaviour if I haven't known the artist's songs for years before finding out about it.

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

Adam and the Ants being another new wave act influenced by Gary Glitter, obviously.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

*have known the artist's songs

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

they held up a carriage at gunpoint iirc

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

don't drink don't smoke, what did they do?

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

subtle innuendo follows

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

must be something inside

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

not sure how awful but a buddy of mine witnessed steven tyler go over to a girl at a restaurant and sit down next to her, pretending to be upset that she'd snapped a pic of him, then he was getting in her personal space and squeezing her and kissing her on the cheeks and she eventually got up and left, visibly uncomfortable, without eating any of her food. i saw some photos he took of it, she was "laughing it off" in the way that many women have described their reactions to unwanted advances but he was really, really in her space in a bad way. and at first my friend thought he was a crazy random sexual offender and not a rock star, he recognized him after a couple minutes.

omar little, Saturday, 18 November 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

the idea of it taking a couple of minutes to discern Steven Tyler is befuddling! but that sounds like a Steven Tyler move from what ive heard

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Saturday, 18 November 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

"cardiacs, ugh

― mookieproof"

why? hasn't main guy from cardiacs been basically totally disabled for years and years?

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

for almost the same length of time as 'bait lj' has been around tbh

imago, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

it's always with <3 from mookie though (i think)

imago, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Three counter examples :

Josh homme kicking olivieri out the band for physically abusing nick's girlfriend.

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:27 PM (three weeks ago)

cf. Josh Homme kicking a photographer in the face :(

jesus and figs and science and the foo fighters (unregistered), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

Jeezus that vid. Just an unprovoked blow to the head while she's photographing.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

The kick, cutting himself, flipping off the crowd, yelling "fuck Muse"...scary behavior

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

eh, comparatively speaking, the other stuff is typical dumbass rockstar posturing. is he usually above that sort of behavior?

jesus and figs and science and the foo fighters (unregistered), Sunday, 10 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

No but all of it put together...

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

yeah this harshed my mellow for sure, was OFTM

In a slipshod style (Ross), Sunday, 10 December 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

His between-song patter at Wembley a few weeks back was pretty damned weird. I know he fucked his leg and his arm before the tour, he was limping offstage at the end of the gig, I wonder if he's on lots of pain meds? Not excusing his shitty, shitty behaviour at the KROQ thing, of course.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 11 December 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Ryan Adams to the list.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 17 February 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

Reading that Ellen Sander article about Led Zeppelin fucked me up.

JoeStork, Sunday, 17 February 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

I'm not a critic so I can afford to engage with music at the expense of the cultural discourse that surrounds it (and which I tend to find exhausting). Musicians' lives don't matter all that much to me, barring an exception or two.

pomenitul, Sunday, 17 February 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

I own all 21 of Bill Cosby's stand-up albums.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

I can’t see all of this positive Porno for Pyros press without bringing to mind what a predatory, manipulative c*nt Perry Farrell is/was, by many accounts. I’ve ditched the Jane’s albums I liked.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 20 August 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

This thread title erases those of us who actually seek out albums by artists after we learn that they are awful people.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 August 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

is there a guide somewhere that says which black metal musicians are fascist/white nationalists

clouds, Sunday, 4 September 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

there's no public database because people don't want to make an official nsbm directory

I have seen various lists come and go in the past they're hard to find now and would be outdated and incomplete. encyclopaedia metallum will say if a band has obvious nazi lyrical themes but you have to look the bands up

(I mostly find it too hard work to bother and I don't trust most metal fans not to downplay or deny the extent of this shit esp when bands aren't card carrying national socialists but have links with those who are or like to play around with the themes and imagery in plausible deniable ways)

Left, Sunday, 4 September 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

a considerate answer, thank you!

clouds, Sunday, 4 September 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

Checked with a friend who knows about these things, he says

Usually checking Metal Archives will give you some good clues, if not explicitly saying. Common Red flags are nationalism, paganism, history - especially when they’re together. Also check the members other bands and the record labels for more clues.

Or Google ‘x-band nsbm’!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

Multiple threads on the topic here: https://www.reddit.com/r/rabm/

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

I was bummed out that nobody made a list of nazi black metal shitheads for Discogs so I’m giving it a whirl. Prepared for flammage.

brimstead, Friday, 9 September 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link

I just recently got caught up on the Michael Milosh (Rhye) allegations, ugh

jaymc, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

I just recently got caught up on the Michael Milosh (Rhye) allegations, ugh

― jaymc

Yeah, that was one where I got rid of his albums immediately after reading the whole thing.

kitchen person, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link

By no means complete, but this list has some useful info at least:
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/HelloInquisitor/black-metal-bands-and-their-politics/

raven, Friday, 9 September 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link

that looks like a good resource

Left, Friday, 9 September 2022 08:11 (one year ago) link

shame that so many of the less sketchy artists have some level of past sketchiness but repudating it later on is better than the alternative

Left, Friday, 9 September 2022 08:20 (one year ago) link

on a less serious note how about artists i love who aren't necessarily "terrible people" but who are now revealing themselves to be soft on royalism?

don't worry i'm sure i'll get over it eventually

Left, Friday, 9 September 2022 08:27 (one year ago) link

Tossed my Rhye record in the garbage after reading about him. Fuck that guy.

Cow_Art, Friday, 9 September 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

on a less serious note how about artists i love who aren't necessarily "terrible people" but who are now revealing themselves to be soft on royalism?

don't worry i'm sure i'll get over it eventually


it’s probably my being American, but I’ve been find ing it pretty funny when some innocuous numbskull nme rock shithead tweets their sincerely felt sorrow for the death of that old nazi

brimstead, Friday, 9 September 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link


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