Albums you own or used to own from artists that turned out to be awful people.

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Those Gary Glitter glam singles sound incredible imo. An amped up metaller version of Lennon's Spector era records.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 November 2017 04:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

cardiacs, ugh

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 November 2017 04:20 (ten months ago) Permalink

lol

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2017 11:12 (ten months ago) Permalink

The thing about those early Gary Glitter singles is that they were as much of an influence on a certain generation of artists as David Bowie's glam stuff was. I'm thinking acts like the first incarnation of The Human League (who covered one of his songs in the early '80s) and Depeche Mode, amongst other new wave/synthpop/New Romantic acts.

I've seen recent interviews with Heaven 17's Glenn Gregory and Depeche Mode's Martin Gore where, when asked about their early influences, cite that early Gary Glitter stuff, but you can tell they're shocked and very much embarrassed by this - not because of anything to do with the music itself, but the actions of the person who fronted those records.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

^^^Spot on. I think prior to H17, Gregory (and Ware) worked with Glitter on a track for B.E.F. They described him to me as "a lunatic"... just generally speaking, no hint of the utter wrongness.

Doran, Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

huh I hadn't made the connection to DM, HL and other NewRos, but you sure can hear his stuff in the Chinn/Chapman productions, the Runaways/Joan Jett, tons of poppier punk/metal stuff going into the 80s

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

And beyond on other English bands like Earl Brutus and The Fall.

Doran, Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:12 (ten months ago) Permalink

Adam & the Ants.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yeah, BEF put Gary in the studio with the Glitter Band, they had never recorded together.

Mark G, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:07 (ten months ago) Permalink

G&M's Russell Smith picking up the counterpoint:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/good-art-by-bad-people-why-it-shouldnt-be-thrown-away/article37006883/

doug watson, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Adam and the Ants too. Basically, if you got rid of all the music those early singles influenced, it'd leave a huge black hole in pop music.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

lol, what did Adam and the Ants do? I have no knowledge of them.

how's life, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:19 (ten months ago) Permalink

ruined a picnic

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

Ruined Eve.

nickn, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

Explains the lack of pants

Evan, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

I couldn't disown The Smiths as they made some of the best pop music ever (cliched but true!) and Johnny Marr's contributions are generally my favourite aspect of the group's songs anyway. Different story with Morrissey's career but I don't think I'd even like it much if he hadn't made the racist comments he has.

R Kelly is a difficult one for me. Knowing just some of the details regarding his repugnant behaviour doesn't stop me enjoying some of the songs, albeit a little less predisposed towards them than beforehand. I suppose I definitely find it easier to disown bad behaviour if I haven't known the artist's songs for years before finding out about it.

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:43 (ten months ago) Permalink

Adam and the Ants being another new wave act influenced by Gary Glitter, obviously.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

*have known the artist's songs

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

they held up a carriage at gunpoint iirc

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

don't drink don't smoke, what did they do?

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

subtle innuendo follows

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

must be something inside

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

not sure how awful but a buddy of mine witnessed steven tyler go over to a girl at a restaurant and sit down next to her, pretending to be upset that she'd snapped a pic of him, then he was getting in her personal space and squeezing her and kissing her on the cheeks and she eventually got up and left, visibly uncomfortable, without eating any of her food. i saw some photos he took of it, she was "laughing it off" in the way that many women have described their reactions to unwanted advances but he was really, really in her space in a bad way. and at first my friend thought he was a crazy random sexual offender and not a rock star, he recognized him after a couple minutes.

omar little, Saturday, 18 November 2017 20:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

the idea of it taking a couple of minutes to discern Steven Tyler is befuddling! but that sounds like a Steven Tyler move from what ive heard

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Saturday, 18 November 2017 20:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

"cardiacs, ugh

― mookieproof"

why? hasn't main guy from cardiacs been basically totally disabled for years and years?

akm, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

for almost the same length of time as 'bait lj' has been around tbh

imago, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:31 (ten months ago) Permalink

it's always with <3 from mookie though (i think)

imago, Sunday, 19 November 2017 15:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Three counter examples :

Josh homme kicking olivieri out the band for physically abusing nick's girlfriend.

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:27 PM (three weeks ago)

cf. Josh Homme kicking a photographer in the face :(

jesus and figs and science and the foo fighters (unregistered), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

Jeezus that vid. Just an unprovoked blow to the head while she's photographing.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

The kick, cutting himself, flipping off the crowd, yelling "fuck Muse"...scary behavior

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

eh, comparatively speaking, the other stuff is typical dumbass rockstar posturing. is he usually above that sort of behavior?

jesus and figs and science and the foo fighters (unregistered), Sunday, 10 December 2017 21:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

No but all of it put together...

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 December 2017 21:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah this harshed my mellow for sure, was OFTM

In a slipshod style (Ross), Sunday, 10 December 2017 22:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

His between-song patter at Wembley a few weeks back was pretty damned weird. I know he fucked his leg and his arm before the tour, he was limping offstage at the end of the gig, I wonder if he's on lots of pain meds? Not excusing his shitty, shitty behaviour at the KROQ thing, of course.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 11 December 2017 12:47 (nine months ago) Permalink


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