The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power series

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Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.

jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades. Amazon will just be doing a different kind of unnecessary exploitation.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Tsk.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

i think it's p ungenerous to characterize a guy who dedicated decades of his life to preserving his dad's work (and i doubt any of those books, bar maybe the silmarillion, made much money) as engaging in any kind of "exploitation."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

obviously i want a full-length douglas gordon version of PJ's hobbit slowed down to two frames a second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31q2ZQcETw

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

xp loving suffocation is the correct term iirc

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

would be amusing if they did unfinished tales and didn't resolve anything, or did a whole year of beren and luthien but restarted it every episode, kept changing the names, and never completing the story

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

I saw 24 Hour Psycho! well, like, 15 minutes of it. That was cool

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

"Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades" that's a bit harsh but it is amusing to look at all those volumes and assume that he thought somewhere someone was really poring over every detail in them at Oxford or something. cuz no one is.

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

loving suffocation is the correct term iirc

And I own them all! (Even the ones he didn't do, did I mention I got the critical edition of A Secret Vice in the mail the other day and etc.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

They should use this to explore the magical ring angle a bit more

treeship: a year in the life (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

the children of hurin book did pretty well iirc, prob cause that one actually told a story and wasn't just a collection of unfinished ephemera

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link

did anyone here read tolkien's version of beowulf? kept meaning to pick that one up.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

Recently got it and mean to give it a read -- my understanding is that it was never a formal translation, more of a kind of notes for himself for lectures and for reference.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Neeson is i think the right age for Theoden, he's a solid 10 years older than Bernard Hill was when he filmed his role. though Neeson doesn't look it. i think if you beard him up he'd look the part.

― omar little, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:07 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Literally over the hill

― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:08 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And at least twice as big as an underhill

― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:09 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That were good that

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

You're hired.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The Curse of Feanor Parts 1-13

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Something of an update:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/how-lord-rings-tv-series-landed-at-amazon-not-netflix-1099213

Key bits:

* Five season commitment
* Amazon must be in production within two years
* "Amazon may use material from the films" so Warners/New Line are involved, per mentions up above
* Jackson's involvement would be his choice; his lawyer "recently helped start a dialogue between Jackson and Amazon"
* Theoretically the Weinsteins could still try and get some cash. They are, however, strangely occupied at present.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

* Five season commitment

uh-oh

star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 April 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

I hope that jackson will only 'choose' to get involved if he feels passionately motivated by the material, since we have learned to our woe what garbage ensues when he isn't really feeling it

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

I...would not mind this.

I just want to say, as someone who rereads Lord of the Rings every two years, has seen all the films dozens of times, and once wrote a college term paper in Elvish, I would give a lung to run this show. Maybe even one of mine. @Netflix https://t.co/umKFr96jXE

— J. Michael Straczynski (@straczynski) April 8, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link

I have no idea whether Straczynski's mid 80s run on Spider-Man was good or not but I grew up with it so he is near to my heart.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 8 April 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link

Wasn't he behind crappy show HEROES?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 April 2018 08:07 (six years ago) link

Heroes was Tim Kring and Jeph Loeb.

Given JMS's best known for doing what was basically LOTR In Space, he does seem like the logical choice. Declaring his interest on Twitter does seem a bit of a "play" though, as it's bound to garner enough positive fan response that he can say "Ahh, you have to give me the gig now as all these people think it's a good idea."

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link

I have no idea whether Straczynski's mid 80s run on Spider-Man was good or not but I grew up with it so he is near to my heart.

typo? He didn't write Spider-Man til the '00s

and it was not good

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:20 (six years ago) link

also he tagged Netflix instead of Amazon in that tweet

Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:23 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I can sense deems's utter delight from here:

Decisions are being made by Peter Jackson and his NZ crew:

Return to Middle-earth with Amazon, or play in the DC Universe? pic.twitter.com/tjF7B0PSAX

— TheOneRing.net (@theoneringnet) May 9, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/GoRGDoE.gif

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

hi ned i knew this would be u and me

gneb farts (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

"We're not that different, you and I."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link

If anyone itt has not seen that set of video essays (which eventually blossoms into a full-on doc) on why the Hobbit movies sucked and the corporate fuckery surrounding their production, they're really worth your time. Goes from a less unsavory RLM type deal to something very different.

Simon H., Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it's really great. I'd recommend the third part even to those who don't care much about LOTR.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

links?

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

Simon H., searching YT gives me two multi-part series on The Hobbit movies, one by Lindsay Ellis and one by The Nigerian Prince. Is it one of those?

Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

Lindsay Ellis, and it's three parts (for obvious joke reasons)

Simon H., Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

I'm watching these now instead of working and it's great

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah that was pretty entertaining/informative, Callen's a good catch for it. (Kind of the perfect guy, really, since he's the oldest of all that group of actors and clearly into a DGAF mode in general.) Only thing I'm not sure about is that she didn't seem to tie in the delays due to MGM's debt fuckup as supposedly stretching things out so much that that factored into del Toro's departure; the case she makes treats the two as wholly separate when my understanding is otherwise. Beyond that, great work.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

We got news

[BREAKING] We have confirmed from multiple sources that @AmazonStudios new billion-dollar #LOTR series will open its first season centered on a young Aragorn.

Let's discuss whats available and how this opens up Tolkien's Legendarium. A thread. #Tolkien
/1 pic.twitter.com/mfbkf4jyX6

— TheOneRing.net (@theoneringnet) May 16, 2018

This essentially means a move to the initially mooted plan for The Hobbit where that was going to be one film and the second film would have been this era.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

they should cast stuart townsend as aragorn

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

Better yet, Arathorn, and have him die in the first ten minutes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

cool that they picked the least interesting angle

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

You were preferring a first season discussing how Old Toby came by the plant instead.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

didn't ever think they'd go full Silmarillion

look I'm sorry it was only a joke (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

young smeagol or gtfo

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

yung smeagol is my elvish rap name

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

yung smeagol is my elvish rap name

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

was hoping for a show where a grizzled old detective has to settle petty grievances between hobbits

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

meanwhile The Ringer just described Aragorn as "the Jon Snow of Tolkien's fantasy saga" and I want to die

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link


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