Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

he may as well be Billy really. why not I say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxyTPpPrhE

i hope there's 3 hours of that on the boxset

my review copy should be arriving on monday :)

I got mine just now. I haven't rewatched any of it so I'm looking forward to that.

mine theoretically arrives tomorrow, fingers crossed

Mine too, I'm psyched to watch the bts features so will prob jump straight to that although the urge to rewatch in bluray quality will be strong. Cool as it is to see lynch at work I'm hoping for some oddities as well (also ymmv but eg every time lynch calls dern "tidbit" I cringe my way to an early grave)

needs soup-making tutorial

In fact just one HDS singing a song extra would be worth the price

Were parts 3+4 presented as a 'feature' on TV? Because they are on the set...

they premiered together, yes

Wait, so they can’t be played separately? Is that the same for 1 & 2?

No, they can be played seperately. It's 1,2,1+2, for example, as choices.

ah ty

Anyway, for some reason I misremembered it as the the first two and the last two that were united. Never mind.

3 and 4 were made available to stream the night 1 and 2 were "broadcast," then played individually on Showtime on weeks 2 and 3.

Yeah first 4 all dropped at the same time for streaming audience (ie almost everyone)

I personally found 3 the most confounding episode at the time. Dropping 4 at the same time was probably smart to indicate the rest of the series would not be quite so disorienting.

*might* not be quite so disorienting

3 was my favorite episode of the series. Wild visuals, kinetic pacing, suspenseful as hell. I remember thinking "holy shit if this show can keep up this momentum this is going to be the greatest thing I've ever watched"

Those fucks at Amazon ran out before they shipped my copy of the box set.

They're at it again

3 was amazing

My favorite moments in Lynch projects tend to be the ones that tease all the crazy imaginative directions the narrative ~could~ take. The actual payoffs, for all their merit, usually aren't half as fun as the ones I begin to imagine in my head so yeah it's hard to top all the amazing possibilities those first few episodes teases

I personally found 3 the most confounding episode at the time. Dropping 4 at the same time was probably smart to indicate the rest of the series would not be quite so disorienting.

yeah, that was the going theory at the time. not sure if it was ever confirmed by any showtime execs, but it makes sense. 3 is a contender for my favorite episode (all the stuff with the purple world was so eraserhead-y that my heart nearly exploded), but you could just imagine it alienating a third of the viewing audience even as it happened.

3 was an instant fave, my theory at the time tho was that it was 4 that would turn most ppl off, with all the weird slow comedy at the sheriff's station & casino - obv im jackpots/Brando/bunny 4lyfe over here but in terms of guessing where the switchoffs would come that would have been my bet. No idea how correct that ended up being but judging from the main complaints as the series went on it wasn't far off.

Does anyone remember when the 1-week break came btw? If it was after pt 8 then I'd say the whole broadcasting schedule could not have been more shrewd

i think it was after 8? but then i misremembered 3 and 4 airing together so who knows (they totally did though, right?)

anyway looks like i'm not getting my box today either :|

Yeah they did xp

man amazon suck, even the guy who played that fucker Ray is tweeting about not getting his set today lol

break was after 8 yes

thx

In other news I'm like 10 minutes into the 5hr documentary on the bonus disc and already this is the greatest

Jealous

5hr documentary on the bonus disc

ok buying this immediately was gonna wait for xmas

It's so good, don't wanna give anything away

But if you're jonesing for more dl being pissy and despotic a la LYNCH1, there is some of that here

(Probably "despotic" only in the way a director needs to be tbf)

yes, absolutely, yes yes yes

chainsmoking i assume

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-WW8V8nD5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxyTPpPrhE

New estimated delivery date:
Thursday, December 21, 2017

lol goddammit

Best Buy will get it to you sooner at the same price. I canceled my Amazon order and sent them a bitchy message through customer service.

Question: It seems to be commonly accepted that Leland was bad enough without Bob's help but I don't remember any Twin Peaks moment that actually suggested any of his evil actions were independent of Bob. What did I miss?

mostly in FWWM, the movie makes it pretty clear that Leland was responsible for his actions. I saw FWWM before season 2, and his epiphanic deathbed confession in the jail cell was really jarring and upsetting imo, exculpated him

the queasy ambiguity/fluctuation of Leland's participation/awareness level is one of the most effective things about the entire series

yep. and though it's considerably more complicated by fwwm, there's even internal series queasiness, e.g. how leland's constant grief dancing is actually related to bob

and also there's the small matter that even if you read him as completely "innocent" or helpless, nothing lessens the horror for laura

yeah the series and the movie do seem to differ greatly on that point. series makes it look like bob leaves him in the cell and knows that his sudden knowledge of what he has done will crush him. in the film it's clear that while he's possessed by bob he absolutely knows what's going on. the scene with the hand-washing before dinner seems to be very much leland the abusive father for instance. and the scene in laura's bed where she suddenly sees bob as leland and he says "i thought you knew". jesus! film just seems much more of a story of incestuous abuse than demonic possession

I wouldn't say it was clear that Bob had nothing to do with some of his FWWM bad behaviour. I was always wondering.

yeah jim otm that dinner scene is one of the most deeply horrifying moments in the entire Twin Peaks universe

one of the reasons it's one of the great works of art about abuse is precisely bc bob is an effective if also ambiguous and imperfect (which is why he fascinates) metaphor for an abuser's compartmentalization of his abuse