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as an owner of one, i would strongly recommend against buying a new macbook pro

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

iPhone even

.oO (silby), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

i disagree with the selection (the right answer is the current 13" macbook air with every upgrade), but the spirit of this is correct

https://marco.org/2017/11/14/best-laptop-ever

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

that's my macbook! still going strong :D

Mordy, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

I have the 13” of that era, also very good

mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

yes, i still have my 2012 macbook pro (use it for dj'ing and music production) and for what i am doing (live music software, logic, multi-band compression on large wav files, etc) it performs as well as the new touch bar model. it doesn't crash as often and based on how it feels i think it will probably outlive this new one.

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

this is kinda sad but I want one of these solely because the idea of having a 256 GB iPod excites me

can someone sell me a broken one for cheap

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

I have an early 2011 MBP, it's still just about viable though has its issues. ipads are not good

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

the current MB and MBP seem expensive for what they are though. really need a spec bump on the MBA, reduce the bezel on them, improve the screen, and have a 950£ price tag

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

that's a dell xps

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

refurb MBA might be the way to go

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

The screen on my MBA 13 was the worst I’d ever seen from Apple; much worse than the 11”. I think an 11” with a Retina screen would be my ideal Mac laptop, come to think of it

stet, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

yup, retina is the only thing the MBA is missing but i use it on an external monitor most of the time, and value portability more than screen when it's not on the monitor

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

also the screen on my 2002 ibook was definitely not as good as the one on the 13" MBA

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

so basically there's currently no sweetspot option and the whole line itself is p.muddled

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

they've gotten rid of the usb port and added the bar which afaict is totally worthless and does nothing interesting so idk maybe back to the drawing board? hopefully b4 i have to buy a new laptop.

Mordy, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Anyone considering using iPad pro as MacBook replacement?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

iPads seem like they'd be v hard to use for work vis-a-vis manipulating files, folders, multitasking, etc?

Mordy, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

new iOS is supposed to have more file support but it's all in the cloud now, no?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

nah, there's a files thingy

mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

imo ipad is awesome for everything i do at home that is not work-related - browsing, shopping, watching videos, streaming music, etc

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

i've been toying with the idea of getting a new laptop (my chromebook is underpowered) but i kinda think the latest ipads are probably enough?

gbx, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

how will you torrent stuff

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

xp personally, i don't think an ipad would get me through work (which in my case involves lots and lots of word processing, some spreadsheets, some scientific visualization and some graphic design). i occasionally play high-end video games on my laptop. and like i said upthread, i use a laptop for music production. but if my work gave me a laptop i could take home, and i wasn't using a laptop for music, i'd probably just have an ipad.

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

i know a few medical people that only use an ipad. all they would need a computer for is email, calendaring, looking stuff up on the internet and billing hours (quicken) and the ipad can handle all of that.

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

iPad seems like it would be great for music production if the software were there. all the twiddly knobs and faders and such.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

there is a pretty cool app called "logic remote" that lets you use the ipad as a controller for logic

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/apple-logic-remote-ipad-controller-app-what-does-it-do-580192

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

it's pretty fun, you can set up the ipad as a keyboard (piano style) or pads (like a drum machine) and one person can bang away on it while the other person adjusts the sound parameters on the laptop, etc

the late great, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

There is fantastic software for the ipad to do all kinds of music. I think there are two competing technologies for routing but you can basically synchronize and interconnect any number of sequencers, synthesizers, effects processors etc all within the ipad.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

KRFT FTW!

DJI, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

Yeah work made me "upgrade" from my 2012 MBP Retina when the battery started to glitch out. Aside from being slightly thinner there is not a single thing I like better about the new model. Aside from the pointless touchbar the keyboard itself sounds like dropping scrabble pieces into a plastic bucket, making it impossible to write notes quietly during meetings etc. And I had to spend $150 on a metal box having the same ports with a USB-C connector, so that someone accountable only to Jony Ive could achieve design minimalism, or maybe so that 0.02% of owners could attach 4 monitors or something like that.
After a decent interval I am going to attempt battery surgery on the old one.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

i replaced the battery in mine recently (at an independent shop for much less than apple wanted) and it's working great

Mordy, Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

Maybe go to fewer meetings

calstars, Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

MBP ‘09 still working great (after maxing out the RAM, changing the battery and installing SSD)!

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 November 2017 07:35 (six years ago) link

Calstars I take my laptop to meetings so I can get actual work done during the meeting time which is why I need a quiet keyboard

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 November 2017 08:53 (six years ago) link

ppl who work in their laptops in meetings r disgusting savages soz

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2017 08:59 (six years ago) link

I can handle yr judgement more than I can handle an hour of people griping at each other while I am trapped there (I work in a university)

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 November 2017 09:51 (six years ago) link

"i'm just taking notes of this pointless backbiting, don't mind me"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link

you spoke much truth there

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

wait, there are people who don't work during meetings? I guess there are the sleepers.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

it drives me absolutely bananas. you have a meeting and half the table is typing on their laptops. it's like being in middle school. "bueller?" uh yes, sorry? ffs just don't come to the meeting if you're 1) not going to listen 2) not going to engage and participate 3) quite openly ignore everyone who is attempting to do those things

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

Most of what I do is actioning the shit that people decide we should do after the meeting - i.e. "we should circulate that document", "we should check the policy on X and decide if it applied", "someone should make a list of all the people we need to discuss this with" so I just do it right there, instead of going away with a list of yet more stuff to do. So it's pretty engaged but also trying to reduce the impact of yet another fucking meeting on my time, so I can go back to my office and check ILX.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

A guy I know gives a meeting ten minutes then says "I shouldn't be here" and bounces. I've started doing the same, works wonders.

stet, Thursday, 16 November 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

xpost i'll allow it :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

all of my meetings are laser-focused but i’ve still posted on ilx during them

mh, Thursday, 16 November 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

I'm just going to change the battery and install an SSD. will cost me 150

||||||||, Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Why are laptops allowed in meetings at all? Tracer OTM

and ffs there's a raging cancer of rude people who think it's acceptable to be staring at their phones in meetings

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

half of my meetings are teleconferences, where you plug the video conference device into your laptop to connect to the rest of the team!

mh, Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

Ban meetings not laptops

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

That works too

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link


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