Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

i didn't like the last special at all.

both his and chapelle's last specials on netflix were blehhhh to me. like they were tired. or their stuff was tired.

I never saw any of these problematic episodes. I just watched it a couple of times and thought "heh, okay" and then never came back to it.

i haven't seen those episodes in forever, but a main character in a tv show doing shitty things does not mean the message is "these things are cool and ok".

yes the serial sexual offender louis ck was making a point about misogyny with those scenes

I mean... it is actually possible to condemn and speak poorly about behavior that you yourself exhibit. Literally everyone does it, just not on this scale.

i haven't seen those episodes in forever, but a main character in a tv show doing shitty things does not mean the message is "these things are cool and ok".

― circa1916, Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:27 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def & i look askance at some of the criticism that seems to lack this self awareness but at the same time this has recontextualizes bits that id interpreted one way as having different resonances now

the one louie i saw that i really didn't like was the scary one with michael rapaport. maybe because michael rapaport is just scary. and gross. and he scared lili taylor. and he defends chris brown. so, yeah, that episode was my least favorite.

yes the serial sexual offender louis ck was making a point about misogyny with those scenes

― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:30 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean, dude HAS made points about misogyny in the past, yeah. didn't say he wasn't a horrible hypocrite and that these revelations recontexualize things (as D-40 said) significantly.

I can't help but feel there's going to be a lot of awkwardness at this this year:

https://www.sfsketchfest.com/2018-lineup/

There's a _Better Things_ discussion Adlon and others will be at.

what I've seen of s2 of Better Things has been fantastic. I'd be surprised if CK didn't stay on as an uncredited collaborator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRzs7v0do_Q

Here is an example of just one of many many tweets I'm getting from men along with countless threats and attacks on me as a performer and person. This is what coming forward gets you and exactly why people are so reluctant to do so. pic.twitter.com/BYLEUQSpCi

— Rebecca Corry (@TheRebeccaCorry) November 15, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpv9Btg0xeE

Annie Trinity
2 years ago
This is Louis CK. He spent most of his routines saying racist things, pretending to masturbate in public, and discussing in depth the mechanics of molesting animals. He was our most brilliant comedian.

3.5-star review of ILYD

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/i-love-you-daddy

(I have at least one or two critic friends who liked it)

better things can go eat it too. who cares? end all shows about rich famous white people and their stupid rich famous white people problems that louie loves making so much.

can we keep Citizen Kane tho? doesn't sound like it

Nope, LCK's favorite movie.

end all shows about rich famous white people and their stupid rich famous white people problems

RIP TV, 1928-2017

BT is primarily Adlon's vehicle, I expect it to keep going.

maybe because michael rapaport is just scary. and gross. and he scared lili taylor. and he defends chris brown

Wait, in the show, or in real life? Not that I have posters of Michael Rapaport around my house or anything, but I always thought he was alright.

the other day i found out he has a podcast with like 200 episodes wtf

no wtf is someone else I think

guilty lol

trying to imagine a person with Michael Rapaport posters all around their house.

like, dreamy soft-focus Tiger Beat-style foldout posters where you can still see the creases and he's like reclining on a leopard-print chaise

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/c4/83/7bc483c993b0ed865d1a8f1fd0d2e561.jpg

Anti-Rappaport fans have this posted instead:

https://scdn.nflximg.net/images/2261/2272261.jpg

All I know about Michael Rappaport's personally life is that he was Natasha Lyonne's landlord and had to evict her and recently had a podcast beef with Bill Burr.

"Wait, in the show, or in real life?"

http://www.eonline.com/news/36433/michael-rapaport-sentenced-for-harassment

"Rapaport responded: “Obviously, nobody supports beating women. OK. This guy has obviously suffered, you see all the trouble he has and all the trouble that surrounds him. He’s definitely dealing with some s–t and dealing with his own personal demons."

https://www.thewrap.com/aziz-ansari-snl-monologue-michael-rapaport-chris-brown-donald-trump/

the rest of that quote is fucking horrifying too. what a douche.

more like crapaport, amirite

jeez that "white girl" comment really takes the cake

literally every sentence of that is worse than the last

http://deadline.com/2017/12/louis-c-k-buying-i-love-you-daddy-back-from-the-orchard-sexual-misconduct-scandal-1202222771/

louie still got that paper

The smart move would be to distribute it for free, but I'm no longer convinced that he knows what smart moves are.

The smart move might be to bury in a time capsule for 5 years, but your second clause is otm.

smarter still might be just to bury it, retire from a career in entertainment, and quietly raise his daughters in obscurity

...or he could have just stayed at home?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/arts/television/louis-ck-performs-comedy.html

(The club owner is not what I would call a deep philosopher.)

a sold-out crowd of about 115, greeted him warmly, with an ovation even before he began

love to stand up and applaud the triumphant return of a sex pest

Mr. Dworman said that as a business owner, he was in a difficult position. “I understand that some people will be upset with me. I care about my customers very much. Every complaint goes through me like a knife. And I care about doing the right thing.”

But, he added, “there can’t be a permanent life sentence on someone who does something wrong.” The social standards about how to respond to errant behavior are inconsistent, he said, and now shifting ever faster, and audiences should have the leeway to decide what to watch themselves. “I think we’ll be better off as a society if we stop looking to the bottlenecks of distribution — Twitter, Netflix, Facebook or comedy clubs — to filter the world for us.”

look we can't expect a man guilty only of ejaculating in front of numerous unwilling women to endure a life sentence of staying home, spending time with his family, and enjoying the fruits of his independent wealth, that's frankly ridiculous

he did a 15-minute set that touched on what Mr. Dworman called “typical Louis C.K. stuff” — racism, waitresses’ tips, parades. “It sounded just like he was trying to work out some new material, almost like any time of the last 10 years he would come in at the beginning of a new act.”

seems really bizarre to get up in front of people and not even acknowledge the elephant in the room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnemWSibRIE

seems really bizarre to get up in front of people and not even acknowledge the elephant in the room

There are worse things he could have done.

def xxp

if your career is built on the appearance of honest self-criticism and then you can't or won't be honest about being a total creep when you attempt a comeback then either you're a coward or your career was built on dishonest self-representation and neither of those are good looks

really he should just fuck off, who gives a shit about what he has to say about waitresses' tips

I thought the whole problem was that he kept forcing other people to acknowledge the elephant in the room.

Louis CK being "banished" from stand-up comedy wasn't some kind of petty punishment, it was a fucking workplace safety issue.

— Bris Farley (@IanKarmel) August 28, 2018

otm, good thread

just practically speaking, idk how he has any kind of career in the near future unless he wants to pivot to full-on MRA or something. maybe I'm being naive but I have a hard time imagining most of his original fan base coming back to him right now. I paid to see him perform five times I think and there's no way in hell I'd give him my money today.

i think he'd do fine but i also have a low opinion of the kind of people who call stand ups geniuses