Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

therapeutic benefits of work different from absolution.

As a less volatile example, I thought the long Louie scene with Dane Cook worked on a bunch of levels. There had been the rumors about Dane Cook stealing CK's jokes, and so to have all of that aired on a scene - directed and written by CK! - was compelling. He had to write Cook's position on the situation in such a way that Cook would agree to play himself and say those words. That kind of thing is just fascinating, as much as it is now tainted by the new context to the maker overall.

i keep thinking of that first scene - was it the very first scene of the very first show? - where he unleashes on the woman who is talking during his set. its a pretty verbally violent scene.

it was not the very first scene but it was pretty early on. also afterwards she confronts him about it, in a scene I don't recall being all that convincing

i stopped watching the show when i got to that scene. which i think is in the 4th or 5th episode. he calls her a cunt. says he hopes someone puts a dick in her face and gives her aids. says her dad was a homeless chinese man or something weird like that. then afterwards when she confronts him she starts to coming round to him, like she almost ends up being into him. i was just like "jesus christ this is the show that everyone watches?"

it's like, the child molesting humor works because it's so over the top that any sane person could understand louie's not serious. but following a woman to her home after she's said repeatedly that she's not interested... it's too real. even if it's meant to be taking the piss, i don't like it. i wanted the scene outside the building to end with the woman telling louie "you're not gonna get what you want." i hated the punchline, that he did get what he wanted, from some other woman who fit the bill.

― diurnal eternal falafel (get bent), Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:07 AM (seven years ago)

xp: its in episode 6. That's where I got off the Louis C.K. boat as well. It's worth mentioning that I was watching this with my wife ("Come on honey, it's this show everyone says I'll like...") and she really enjoyed the first 5 episodes, but when we got to that scene it was like she had been slapped in the face.

xp: its in episode 6. That's where I got off the Louis C.K. boat as well. It's worth mentioning that I was watching this with my wife ("Come on honey, it's this show everyone says I'll like...") and she really enjoyed the first 5 episodes, but when we got to that scene it was like she had been slapped in the face.

― how's life, Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:13 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was my experience exactly except it was my wife's idea to watch the show

that scene and the Pamela incident in (late s4?) were probably the ickiest. the aforementioned episode with yvonne strahovski where he hits her in the face was so obviously dreamlike/unreal that it didn't register for me in the same way

i wish i could say i disliked the show for these problematic reasons but i just found it boring, in the way that saying 'interesting' means boring

loved the last comedy special, though

i can't remember what people said about that scene with melissa leo in the truck. probably talk about it on this thread.

i didn't like the last special at all.

both his and chapelle's last specials on netflix were blehhhh to me. like they were tired. or their stuff was tired.

I never saw any of these problematic episodes. I just watched it a couple of times and thought "heh, okay" and then never came back to it.

i haven't seen those episodes in forever, but a main character in a tv show doing shitty things does not mean the message is "these things are cool and ok".

yes the serial sexual offender louis ck was making a point about misogyny with those scenes

I mean... it is actually possible to condemn and speak poorly about behavior that you yourself exhibit. Literally everyone does it, just not on this scale.

i haven't seen those episodes in forever, but a main character in a tv show doing shitty things does not mean the message is "these things are cool and ok".

― circa1916, Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:27 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def & i look askance at some of the criticism that seems to lack this self awareness but at the same time this has recontextualizes bits that id interpreted one way as having different resonances now

the one louie i saw that i really didn't like was the scary one with michael rapaport. maybe because michael rapaport is just scary. and gross. and he scared lili taylor. and he defends chris brown. so, yeah, that episode was my least favorite.

yes the serial sexual offender louis ck was making a point about misogyny with those scenes

― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:30 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean, dude HAS made points about misogyny in the past, yeah. didn't say he wasn't a horrible hypocrite and that these revelations recontexualize things (as D-40 said) significantly.

I can't help but feel there's going to be a lot of awkwardness at this this year:

https://www.sfsketchfest.com/2018-lineup/

There's a _Better Things_ discussion Adlon and others will be at.

what I've seen of s2 of Better Things has been fantastic. I'd be surprised if CK didn't stay on as an uncredited collaborator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRzs7v0do_Q

Here is an example of just one of many many tweets I'm getting from men along with countless threats and attacks on me as a performer and person. This is what coming forward gets you and exactly why people are so reluctant to do so. pic.twitter.com/BYLEUQSpCi

— Rebecca Corry (@TheRebeccaCorry) November 15, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpv9Btg0xeE

Annie Trinity
2 years ago
This is Louis CK. He spent most of his routines saying racist things, pretending to masturbate in public, and discussing in depth the mechanics of molesting animals. He was our most brilliant comedian.

3.5-star review of ILYD

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/i-love-you-daddy

(I have at least one or two critic friends who liked it)

better things can go eat it too. who cares? end all shows about rich famous white people and their stupid rich famous white people problems that louie loves making so much.

can we keep Citizen Kane tho? doesn't sound like it

Nope, LCK's favorite movie.

end all shows about rich famous white people and their stupid rich famous white people problems

RIP TV, 1928-2017

BT is primarily Adlon's vehicle, I expect it to keep going.

maybe because michael rapaport is just scary. and gross. and he scared lili taylor. and he defends chris brown

Wait, in the show, or in real life? Not that I have posters of Michael Rapaport around my house or anything, but I always thought he was alright.

the other day i found out he has a podcast with like 200 episodes wtf

no wtf is someone else I think

guilty lol

trying to imagine a person with Michael Rapaport posters all around their house.

like, dreamy soft-focus Tiger Beat-style foldout posters where you can still see the creases and he's like reclining on a leopard-print chaise

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/c4/83/7bc483c993b0ed865d1a8f1fd0d2e561.jpg

Anti-Rappaport fans have this posted instead:

https://scdn.nflximg.net/images/2261/2272261.jpg

All I know about Michael Rappaport's personally life is that he was Natasha Lyonne's landlord and had to evict her and recently had a podcast beef with Bill Burr.

"Wait, in the show, or in real life?"

http://www.eonline.com/news/36433/michael-rapaport-sentenced-for-harassment

"Rapaport responded: “Obviously, nobody supports beating women. OK. This guy has obviously suffered, you see all the trouble he has and all the trouble that surrounds him. He’s definitely dealing with some s–t and dealing with his own personal demons."

https://www.thewrap.com/aziz-ansari-snl-monologue-michael-rapaport-chris-brown-donald-trump/

the rest of that quote is fucking horrifying too. what a douche.

more like crapaport, amirite

jeez that "white girl" comment really takes the cake

literally every sentence of that is worse than the last

http://deadline.com/2017/12/louis-c-k-buying-i-love-you-daddy-back-from-the-orchard-sexual-misconduct-scandal-1202222771/

louie still got that paper

The smart move would be to distribute it for free, but I'm no longer convinced that he knows what smart moves are.

The smart move might be to bury in a time capsule for 5 years, but your second clause is otm.

smarter still might be just to bury it, retire from a career in entertainment, and quietly raise his daughters in obscurity