artists who plausibly appear to be good people

Robert, most Tory wankers didn't need to vote Tory in early 00s.

A moot point as he'd followed through on his promise to leave the country if Labour got in and was living in Switzerland by then.

co-sign on Kristin Hersh, add Courtney Barnett

I've met Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Rick was a bit curmedgeonly at first but altogether a very nice, smart and funny guy.

Robin Zander was super friendly and outgoing. Way more than he needed to be around the likes of me.

And, secondhand but true. Maybe 3 or 4 years ago my good friend was waiting tables in Los Angeles. Bono and The Edge plus a few publicists came in. My friend, who will say anything to anyone, told them "It's not too late guys, you can still release Elvis Presley and America as a single." He said they were laughing really hard and Bono told him something like "Thank you! That's the move we need right now."

Lostprophets seem to be really close to their fans

Bono has been mentioned on a "good people thread". Think we can bury this one now and act like this thread never happened.

Bono's not a good person?

Bono helped rescue my mom from a crowd crush at a U2 show (she was 57 at the time, she's 5'2" and 95 lbs, front row in GA, first time seeing them.)

I'd be much more interested in this thread if it were more 'I or someone I'm very close to has known ___ for a decade or more and can reliability confirm that ___ is a good person'. Otherwise this is basically 'Vanilla Ice has a nice smile so he must be a good person'.

xp

so he protected her like he was protecting his money from taxes

Bono's not a good person?

Delete thread.

Laetitia Sadier is a class act all the way

"Mary Steenbergen and Jason Schwartzman and Dave Matthews"

I don't think I'd see that band

I've met Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Rick was a bit curmedgeonly at first but altogether a very nice, smart and funny guy.

Terre Thaemlitz begs to differ

Mattheim Steenburgen

remember that time when bono paid £1,000 for a first class air ticket for his hat so that he could wear it at a charity concert?

http://www.contactmusic.com/bono/news/bono-pays-.1.500-to-get-forgotten-hat

Laetitia Sadier is a class act all the way

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:50 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Isn't she in with the Living Marxism crowd? I mean, I hope she isn't, but have heard as much on here.

LM the zine?

You might be confusing her with Rosie Cuckston of Pram?

Xxxxxpost:

Ah yes Weird Al Yankovic! I love that man, it would break my heart if it turned out he’s secretly evil.

From a 2012 interview on her influences:

Living Marxism Magazine

At the time there was the war in Serbia and a huge fabrication to keep people in their place and keep the systems of Germany and France and their economic hands in those markets. It was well-investigated and although it came from a Marxist background, was always just. It went against the grain and the widely agreed-on political points. They would predict where things would head. What was also good about it was that when things were explained, the root of things were explained. It gives you hope. We don’t have to just sit there and go, “Oh it’s horrible.” It is horrible but defeatable.

I assume she's not as stupid as that quote makes her seem.

I've never heard anyone say a bad word about Deathprod.

I don’t know if it’s fair to judge her by only one interview but Lady Gaga seriously impressed me on her Graham Norton interview. She was very kind to June Brown constantly complimenting her and telling her she was beautiful every time June used self-deprecating humor about her old age, and she was geniunely excited when Graham presented a live feed with one of her fans. Like SERIOUSLY excited. She loves her fans and seems to promote diversity a lot not just to sell records but because she believes it.

You might be right about Sadier and the LM kru, looks like she’s down with Spiked:

Rape culture? There’s no such thing | Feminism | spiked http://t.co/Y5yeL4JNyk

— Lætitia Sadier (@SadierLae) November 24, 2014

Paris and beyond: Europe is at war with itself | Europe | France | Religion and atheism | spiked http://t.co/3kb7bGfaK4

— Lætitia Sadier (@SadierLae) January 13, 2015

Right, so strike her off the good people list.

JIm Duckworth seems really sound.
So does Kid Congo

& Jule Cruise, Annie Bandez, Linda Perhacs

almost said pj harvey but apparently she's defended fox hunting in the past

tbh i'm american and the only fox hunts i've seen are in old cartoons, but sounds p fuckin horrific

So this is basically just gonna be the "awful artists" thread w/ the additional layer of hope first being introduced before it's struck down

This thread is veering into moral McCarthyism fast.

Plus a few acts with like six-person fandoms who are so far out of the public eye that even if they were terrible we'd probably never hear about it

xp, idk at this point I feel like putting a "sin list" in the public square isn't entirely unmerited

in fairness the other thread was about ppl who've actually committed horrific crimes, having bad politics or being a jerk in person or being annoying on twitter or w/e don't really compare

A "sin list", really now? Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked? As evidence presented by some tweets from 2014?

Newsflash: there are no "good people". We are all, in our own way, flawed, awful and bad, at least. Let's not kid ourselves.

xp

"artists who plausibly appear to not be actual demons"

And yeah "sin list" was just me leaning into the moral panic aesthetics a bit
Let's not make this the "music criticism in video form" thread

is prince bad? susan rogers had only nice things to say.

A "sin list", really now? Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked? As evidence presented by some tweets from 2014?

Newsflash: there are no "good people". We are all, in our own way, flawed, awful and bad, at least. Let's not kid ourselves.

I couldn't care less either way, tbh, being a fool is no crime after all.

Champiness, tell me your twitter handle, and I'll tell you why you too are "bad people".

It's easy if you try.

Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked?

Was just trying to answer the question of whether or not she was one of the Living Marxism crowd tbh.

Oh I know, wasn't directed at you! But something about this turning into some witch hunt def rubbing me the wrong way.

You will not find a single artist/human being that is inherently good, is my point.

So this thread is silly then.

But, I suppose the criterion is only plausibly good though.

Who's judging who is a good person? Maybe we need a recursive thread: 'ILM posters who seem like good people and therefore able to judge if other people are 'sound' (on the basis of secondhand rumour or a 90 second chat), and a 'sin list'.

I think it's a silly thread, yes. But I'm bad people tbh.

Plausibly appear, even.

xp

Maybe a better thread might have been ‘yr favourite good deeds done by musicians’. I liked the Danzig anecdotes in the other thread and could bear to hear more.

Hey Le Bateau Ivre, hat in hand, no hard feelings. Just been a tough time lately, is all.
(Plus I barely use my Twitter so, sorry, not much of a paper trail there.)

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Maybe a better thread might have been ‘yr favourite good deeds done by musicians’. I liked the Danzig anecdotes in the other thread and could bear to hear more.

― plp will eat itself (NickB)

Yeah agree with this. The other thread is filled with sex criminals, women beaters and racists. Saying an artist isn't a good person because he/she has controversial views on certain things doesn't seem fair to me.

always heard that Gary Numan was a quality bloke

― frogbs, Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:51 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oooh hello, this is Gary Numan...