artists who plausibly appear to be good people

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unequivocal no , I mean obv.

calzino, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

Spent an afternoon with Nina Nastasia and her husband? (I forget his name) a few years back, I was recording an interview and some songs for a radio session, I brought along a bottle of nice whisky and we all got slowly drunk, they were both very nice and hung out for ages afterwards.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

WEIRD FUCKING AL

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

Phil Collins said in early 00s that he never voted Tory.

Still a Tory wanker.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

He wanks tories?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link

Never heard a negative thing about Andrew W.K., his "persona" is apparently pretty legit

― frogbs, Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:47 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I met him once and we had a great conversation about how Lungfish was the greatest band and how he'd offered Lungfish a decent amount of $$$ to reunite but Higgs wouldn't

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

Robert, most Tory wankers didn't need to vote Tory in early 00s.

calzino, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

The mention of the Linkin Park dudes trying not to make too much work for the janitors seemed like a good sign.

Neko Case appears to generally be a rad person.

All of the Mekons seem like solid, friendly people who have consistently supported good/doomed causes. My (female) friend who recorded with Jon Langford has nothing but great things to say about him, Lu Edmonds helps teenagers in the Caucasus record music, etc.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

Collins was on Room 101 and he said he was sick of people (Oasis in particular) assuming he was a Tory and said he'd never voted Tory.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

scooby doo

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

Robert, most Tory wankers didn't need to vote Tory in early 00s.

A moot point as he'd followed through on his promise to leave the country if Labour got in and was living in Switzerland by then.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

co-sign on Kristin Hersh, add Courtney Barnett

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

I've met Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Rick was a bit curmedgeonly at first but altogether a very nice, smart and funny guy.

Robin Zander was super friendly and outgoing. Way more than he needed to be around the likes of me.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

And, secondhand but true. Maybe 3 or 4 years ago my good friend was waiting tables in Los Angeles. Bono and The Edge plus a few publicists came in. My friend, who will say anything to anyone, told them "It's not too late guys, you can still release Elvis Presley and America as a single." He said they were laughing really hard and Bono told him something like "Thank you! That's the move we need right now."

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

Lostprophets seem to be really close to their fans

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

Bono has been mentioned on a "good people thread". Think we can bury this one now and act like this thread never happened.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

Bono's not a good person?

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

Bono helped rescue my mom from a crowd crush at a U2 show (she was 57 at the time, she's 5'2" and 95 lbs, front row in GA, first time seeing them.)

omar little, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

I'd be much more interested in this thread if it were more 'I or someone I'm very close to has known ___ for a decade or more and can reliability confirm that ___ is a good person'. Otherwise this is basically 'Vanilla Ice has a nice smile so he must be a good person'.

Home of the Ill-Considered Gravy Spigot (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

xp

so he protected her like he was protecting his money from taxes

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

Bono's not a good person?

Delete thread.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

Laetitia Sadier is a class act all the way

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

"Mary Steenbergen and Jason Schwartzman and Dave Matthews"

I don't think I'd see that band

akm, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

I've met Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Rick was a bit curmedgeonly at first but altogether a very nice, smart and funny guy.

Terre Thaemlitz begs to differ

stuck on the darraghmac (qiqing), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

Mattheim Steenburgen

omar little, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

remember that time when bono paid £1,000 for a first class air ticket for his hat so that he could wear it at a charity concert?

http://www.contactmusic.com/bono/news/bono-pays-.1.500-to-get-forgotten-hat

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Laetitia Sadier is a class act all the way

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:50 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Isn't she in with the Living Marxism crowd? I mean, I hope she isn't, but have heard as much on here.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

LM the zine?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

You might be confusing her with Rosie Cuckston of Pram?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

Xxxxxpost:

Ah yes Weird Al Yankovic! I love that man, it would break my heart if it turned out he’s secretly evil.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

From a 2012 interview on her influences:

Living Marxism Magazine

At the time there was the war in Serbia and a huge fabrication to keep people in their place and keep the systems of Germany and France and their economic hands in those markets. It was well-investigated and although it came from a Marxist background, was always just. It went against the grain and the widely agreed-on political points. They would predict where things would head. What was also good about it was that when things were explained, the root of things were explained. It gives you hope. We don’t have to just sit there and go, “Oh it’s horrible.” It is horrible but defeatable.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

I assume she's not as stupid as that quote makes her seem.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

I've never heard anyone say a bad word about Deathprod.

djh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

I don’t know if it’s fair to judge her by only one interview but Lady Gaga seriously impressed me on her Graham Norton interview. She was very kind to June Brown constantly complimenting her and telling her she was beautiful every time June used self-deprecating humor about her old age, and she was geniunely excited when Graham presented a live feed with one of her fans. Like SERIOUSLY excited. She loves her fans and seems to promote diversity a lot not just to sell records but because she believes it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

You might be right about Sadier and the LM kru, looks like she’s down with Spiked:

Rape culture? There’s no such thing | Feminism | spiked http://t.co/Y5yeL4JNyk

— Lætitia Sadier (@SadierLae) November 24, 2014

Paris and beyond: Europe is at war with itself | Europe | France | Religion and atheism | spiked http://t.co/3kb7bGfaK4

— Lætitia Sadier (@SadierLae) January 13, 2015

plp will eat itself (NickB), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Right, so strike her off the good people list.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

JIm Duckworth seems really sound.
So does Kid Congo

& Jule Cruise, Annie Bandez, Linda Perhacs

Stevolende, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

almost said pj harvey but apparently she's defended fox hunting in the past

tbh i'm american and the only fox hunts i've seen are in old cartoons, but sounds p fuckin horrific

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link

So this is basically just gonna be the "awful artists" thread w/ the additional layer of hope first being introduced before it's struck down

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link

This thread is veering into moral McCarthyism fast.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link

Plus a few acts with like six-person fandoms who are so far out of the public eye that even if they were terrible we'd probably never hear about it

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

xp, idk at this point I feel like putting a "sin list" in the public square isn't entirely unmerited

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

in fairness the other thread was about ppl who've actually committed horrific crimes, having bad politics or being a jerk in person or being annoying on twitter or w/e don't really compare

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

A "sin list", really now? Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked? As evidence presented by some tweets from 2014?

Newsflash: there are no "good people". We are all, in our own way, flawed, awful and bad, at least. Let's not kid ourselves.

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

"artists who plausibly appear to not be actual demons"

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

And yeah "sin list" was just me leaning into the moral panic aesthetics a bit
Let's not make this the "music criticism in video form" thread

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

is prince bad? susan rogers had only nice things to say.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link

A "sin list", really now? Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked? As evidence presented by some tweets from 2014?

Newsflash: there are no "good people". We are all, in our own way, flawed, awful and bad, at least. Let's not kid ourselves.

I couldn't care less either way, tbh, being a fool is no crime after all.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

Champiness, tell me your twitter handle, and I'll tell you why you too are "bad people".

It's easy if you try.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

Sadier is "bad people" now because she reads Spiked?

Was just trying to answer the question of whether or not she was one of the Living Marxism crowd tbh.

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link


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