ian otm
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
The Erotic Confessions of the Witch-King of Angmar
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
imo the whole Tolkien canon is overrated and the films were well-made if overwrought
having a really pulpy tv drama would be a good reflection on it
it should also invert the racism/sexism/perceptions of same in the original work to really piss off the purists
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
I guess I mean the Lord of the Rings ones, the whole Hobbit thing I kind of paid half-attention to on television and couldn't figure out why this fun reasonable-sized story was burdened by all this crap that was grafted on to it by all the later books
it's about this short dude and his buddies who go on a quest to defeat a dragon, not sure why it needed more than one movie
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
^^ hint: it didn't.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
the first hobbit was fine, the other two unwatchable
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
most gripping dishwashing scene since scarface
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
Goodkind worse than brooks bc at least brooks was one of the first to the ripoff post
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Okay, finally, an explanation as to why this is happening -- not too surprising in the end but here we go:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11/15/104426-in-historic-move-christopher-tolkien-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-estate/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
his successor: azog the defiler
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
How dare you say that about his sister and his wife. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
retiring on those super amazon dollars
― mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
bring on the hobbit sex I guess
― Number None, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades. Amazon will just be doing a different kind of unnecessary exploitation.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
Tsk.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
i think it's p ungenerous to characterize a guy who dedicated decades of his life to preserving his dad's work (and i doubt any of those books, bar maybe the silmarillion, made much money) as engaging in any kind of "exploitation."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
obviously i want a full-length douglas gordon version of PJ's hobbit slowed down to two frames a second
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31q2ZQcETw
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
xp loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
would be amusing if they did unfinished tales and didn't resolve anything, or did a whole year of beren and luthien but restarted it every episode, kept changing the names, and never completing the story
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
I saw 24 Hour Psycho! well, like, 15 minutes of it. That was cool
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link
"Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades" that's a bit harsh but it is amusing to look at all those volumes and assume that he thought somewhere someone was really poring over every detail in them at Oxford or something. cuz no one is.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
And I own them all! (Even the ones he didn't do, did I mention I got the critical edition of A Secret Vice in the mail the other day and etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link
They should use this to explore the magical ring angle a bit more
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link
the children of hurin book did pretty well iirc, prob cause that one actually told a story and wasn't just a collection of unfinished ephemera
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
did anyone here read tolkien's version of beowulf? kept meaning to pick that one up.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link
Recently got it and mean to give it a read -- my understanding is that it was never a formal translation, more of a kind of notes for himself for lectures and for reference.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link
Neeson is i think the right age for Theoden, he's a solid 10 years older than Bernard Hill was when he filmed his role. though Neeson doesn't look it. i think if you beard him up he'd look the part.
― omar little, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:07 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Literally over the hill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:08 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And at least twice as big as an underhill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:09 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That were good that
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link
You're hired.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link
The Curse of Feanor Parts 1-13
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link
Something of an update:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/how-lord-rings-tv-series-landed-at-amazon-not-netflix-1099213
Key bits:
* Five season commitment* Amazon must be in production within two years* "Amazon may use material from the films" so Warners/New Line are involved, per mentions up above* Jackson's involvement would be his choice; his lawyer "recently helped start a dialogue between Jackson and Amazon"* Theoretically the Weinsteins could still try and get some cash. They are, however, strangely occupied at present.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
* Five season commitment
uh-oh
― star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 April 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link
I hope that jackson will only 'choose' to get involved if he feels passionately motivated by the material, since we have learned to our woe what garbage ensues when he isn't really feeling it
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
I...would not mind this.
I just want to say, as someone who rereads Lord of the Rings every two years, has seen all the films dozens of times, and once wrote a college term paper in Elvish, I would give a lung to run this show. Maybe even one of mine. @Netflix https://t.co/umKFr96jXE— J. Michael Straczynski (@straczynski) April 8, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link
I have no idea whether Straczynski's mid 80s run on Spider-Man was good or not but I grew up with it so he is near to my heart.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 8 April 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
Wasn't he behind crappy show HEROES?
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 April 2018 08:07 (six years ago) link
Heroes was Tim Kring and Jeph Loeb.
Given JMS's best known for doing what was basically LOTR In Space, he does seem like the logical choice. Declaring his interest on Twitter does seem a bit of a "play" though, as it's bound to garner enough positive fan response that he can say "Ahh, you have to give me the gig now as all these people think it's a good idea."
― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
typo? He didn't write Spider-Man til the '00s
and it was not good
― Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:20 (six years ago) link
also he tagged Netflix instead of Amazon in that tweet
― Number None, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:23 (six years ago) link
I can sense deems's utter delight from here:
Decisions are being made by Peter Jackson and his NZ crew: Return to Middle-earth with Amazon, or play in the DC Universe? pic.twitter.com/tjF7B0PSAX— TheOneRing.net (@theoneringnet) May 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GoRGDoE.gif
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
hi ned i knew this would be u and me
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
"We're not that different, you and I."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
If anyone itt has not seen that set of video essays (which eventually blossoms into a full-on doc) on why the Hobbit movies sucked and the corporate fuckery surrounding their production, they're really worth your time. Goes from a less unsavory RLM type deal to something very different.
― Simon H., Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link
Yeah, it's really great. I'd recommend the third part even to those who don't care much about LOTR.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 10 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
links?
― jamiesummerz, Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
Simon H., searching YT gives me two multi-part series on The Hobbit movies, one by Lindsay Ellis and one by The Nigerian Prince. Is it one of those?
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
Lindsay Ellis, and it's three parts (for obvious joke reasons)
― Simon H., Thursday, 10 May 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link