David Fincher's serial killer chat 'em up MINDHUNTER

is the "true self" any more caring or even more lizardlike

or just a pure id ragemonster

i watched some of the real kemper on youtube. that weird feeling that they were just really pretty boring people except for the whole killing thing...

like, they do kinda remind me of people who come in the store and go on and on about boring stuff until i feel like i'm going to fall over. men who like to talk and hypnotize you with stories of that amplifier they owned in the 70's. sometimes i wish they would just kill me...

I both hate myself for wondering and it's gross even being interested in it beyond the analytical thought of what makes people tick! I'm not an expert or hunting killers, so there's no practical reason for me to know, so it's all gawking (at the expense of victims) and intrigue about murder. The cops who are like "I don't care how they tick, I want to know how to stop them" are very relatable

on the other hand I love the Hannibal tv series and revel in his horribleness

so to sum it up, I'm sure I'll look good wearing your skins, ttyl

tbh i dont think there is a true self... it’s just layers of masks

yeah i stand on both sides of the fence too even though i sound ghoulishly invested

i would much rather these violent sexual predators not take up space in jail when there is zero chance of rehabiliatuon of any kind & at a certain point “study” just serves their ego

but i am also not a big fan of capital punishment so

idk

i kinda stan for putting them all on a trash island together in the middle of the ocean & let them lord of the flies it up with no outside attention until they all die/murder each other/eat each other etc

I think they're among the few people that actually belong imprisoned for life, this is one of the few reasons we would ever actually need prisons

yeah maybe

idk

still

trash island is v appealing

https://33.media.tumblr.com/bc3e1b7fd71a708e2b307812afc4d66e/tumblr_nbcw4gGtvf1rl3565o9_250.gif

lolol

the second meeting w/Kemper, he does this thing that i just noticed but is very quietly chilling.

it's a throwaway/not throwaway shot. they're talking and he stands up and walks over to demonstrate something regarding his thoughts on, uh, neck muscles, and after Kemper does it he walks back to his side of the table and as he's sitting, shoots a quick glance over at the guard who's hanging out in the next room, and even though he's in the background and out of focus you can see the guard is turned with his back to them. it's just a quick hit of Kemper pushing the envelope a bit and getting his kicks in.

Loving all the bridges

Why does the actor playing Holden have to be so naive and childlike? Both at work and in his relationship.

He’s like a deer in headlights

Maybe that's just what he's like irl

he is!

jonathan groff is a beautiful angel so thats p much how he is 24/7

He needs a true ILX pua to coach him

What’s a pua?

Pick up artist? his character on Looking could have used one

obvious point but i think they're definitely toying w/the idea that Holden has a disconnect from most people but finds a connection w/some of these killers. which is why i loved Anna Torv's quick reaction shot glances at him in their first meeting, she was kind of figuring him out a bit from the start. even their first first meeting: "Cold season."

I just wanted to say I really like Jonathan Groff. His character on Looking is the reason why. And it's because of him that I've started watching Mindhunter

is he *ever* shown without a suit? I remember him taking off shirt once (when he couldn't have sex) but that's it. odd conceit

I liked this! but yeah the Debbie character was a bit bizarre, just someone for him to talk at and who would ask the 'right' questions to enlighten the audience

I didn't know anything about this going in nor the source material so it mainly made sense in the last couple of episodes where they did the whole 'we need some kind of terminology to describe these people who do a series of murders'. But yes I am glad it wasn't too gorey and the small-town cops weren't dumb. I'm watching Stranger Things at the same time and occasionally mixing up threads.

My burning question after (nearly) finishing this show: all that cigarette smoke - was it cgi?

What’s with Wendy and the cat?

tbh idk either. someone itt suggested it was metaphor i think

P sure the cat is a serial mousehunter

Wendy as surrogate mother merely leaves some food and retreats up the stairs, ignoring plaintive meows

Tench is the man.

Lots of great little asides in this. Episode 4 -- noticing how well Tench initially predicts the ultimate outcome and how far afield Holden is. Also when Rissell crushes the can suddenly after finishing it and asks, "why do we do that when we're done?" I forget Holden's response but I liked Rissell's "Maybe..." reply to it.

Also this show made me recognize the narcissistic and borderline (imo) B.B. low-level socially (as opposed to murderous) psychopathic behavior of a couple we know and it put the fear into me. Not going to talk about it here but if there's ever a relevant thread maybe I would.

Psychopaths (Adult and Otherwise) ??

Tench is the anchor, the fulcrum

Have to say, ep 8 is really weak with the tickling bs as is 9 with needless relationship drama. Netflix : just make the season 8 eps instead of 10 if you’ve run out of pertinent plot points.

Series needs more of tench on the links, in bunkers as a metaphor

Exposition is clumsy and tiresome but it hits nice beats and looks, sounds and feels so damn good

There was at least one shot of Tench on the course, need more info, handicap etc.

There was something really off about all the drama surrounding the oversight committee and who-surrendered-the-tape. It's school marmy bureaucratic crap which any sensible person would only rtde at, instead the whole team takes it so seriously!

thanks Mordy! might be posting on that soon...

i think the tickling bs is kind of interesting in how it's an inappropriate situation but at the same time a potentially inappropriate use of this new pathology, a bit of an overreach, and involves what are hinted at to be internal school staff politics. it's not that the principal is correct but it's that the FBI is a bit of a blunt instrument, and Holden is power-tripping a bit maybe.

the relationship stuff doesn't bother me...i don't know what'll happen next season but maybe that's the last we see of Debbie?

I don’t think Holden is power tripping as much as he’s convinced he’s unlocked something that will save all these people, including tickling victims. It’s a different kind of arrogance.

I wish there was more internal FBI politicking but of course I would. I did enjoy that we got basically one scene on the uselessness of Boston ivory tower types before the writers got bored and just had Wendy move to DC.

Yeah relationship trouble for the sake of relationship trouble just seems predicable.

Ten Years Gone? wtf

never heard LZ in a TV show and I hope I never will again

Yeah relationship trouble for the sake of relationship trouble just seems predicable.

― calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:16 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This holds true irl for about 90% of attempted relationships afaict

The LZ track is "In the Light"

I wish there was more internal FBI politicking but of course I would.

Try "Manhunt: Unabomber."

yeaahhhh i mean you’re not wrong, but it’s also pretty corny.

It is, but that show does a great job of communicating what you need hardass bureaucrats for (tactics, getting things done) and what their limitations are (strategy, getting the right things done). Mindhunter is the better show in every other respect.

Surprised veggrrl has not commented on the fact that the writer of the show, who grew up in Australia (Adelaide), named his main character 'Holden Ford'.

oh i made note of this on FB to my aussie friends, it seriously took me out of the first episode

it’s like naming your kid Coke Pepsi
PICK A SIDE

maybe the writer really likes Hitchhiker’s Guide