they paid $250m for this o_O― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Legend of the Seeker" would have gone for a song.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
BATTLEFIELD HAM dekalogy or gtfo
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
oh god no leave him alone he's already dead
― the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
>>Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob<<
I'd wear it.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
this is v surprising news, because christopher tolkien despises jackson's films and has been consistent in his refusal to sell the rights to the silmarillion or any of the "history of middle-earth" stuff. my assumption wd be that "in cooperation with the tolkien estate" is just a nicety/PR formality and this series won't actually be an adaptation of JRRT's non-LOTR stuff. but who knows.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
Speaking of "Legend of the Seeker," is Goodkind now pretending he never wrote a 17-book fantasy series? His website only describes him as the writer of two thriller books.
At some unknown time between September of 2016 and April of 2017, Terry Goodkind's official website was scrubbed of all references to the Sword of Truth series, and his Facebook page was made private or removed, potentially signalling that Goodkind may be moving on from his most well-known work.[26]
― jmm, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
maybe the new stories are stories by by christopher tolkien, at last his creative light will shine
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
fuck you dad, hobbits suck, "in a hole in the sea lived a bobbitt"
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
Oh fp
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
That goodkind factoid is super weirdThough tbh I️ too have pretended like his fantasies were never published
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
He may have deleted it, but conservative columnist John Podhoretz had some tweet asking why the Tolkien estate was so greedy to ask so much money
you'd think the conservative ideal of charging whatever price the market would bear would have occurred to him. sheesh.
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:20 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hard pass
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
Goodkind apparently identifies as an Objectivist according to wiki.Also who is worse: Terry Goodkind or Terry Brooks?
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
i suspect amazon wd rather come up with new stories set in the same universe than try to adapt a bunch of mostly unfinished myths and narratives from a 12-volume set anyway.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
if there are no sexy elves in the first episode i'll be very frustrated.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
it would be a bummer cause there are dozens of filmable stories from the Tolkien legendarium, in the appendices and the unfinished tales or wherever, that they would just create their own stories with Hobbits or Elves or whatever and call it Lord of the Rings.
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
ian otm
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
The Erotic Confessions of the Witch-King of Angmar
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
imo the whole Tolkien canon is overrated and the films were well-made if overwrought
having a really pulpy tv drama would be a good reflection on it
it should also invert the racism/sexism/perceptions of same in the original work to really piss off the purists
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
I guess I mean the Lord of the Rings ones, the whole Hobbit thing I kind of paid half-attention to on television and couldn't figure out why this fun reasonable-sized story was burdened by all this crap that was grafted on to it by all the later books
it's about this short dude and his buddies who go on a quest to defeat a dragon, not sure why it needed more than one movie
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
^^ hint: it didn't.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
the first hobbit was fine, the other two unwatchable
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
most gripping dishwashing scene since scarface
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
Goodkind worse than brooks bc at least brooks was one of the first to the ripoff post
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Okay, finally, an explanation as to why this is happening -- not too surprising in the end but here we go:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11/15/104426-in-historic-move-christopher-tolkien-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-estate/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
his successor: azog the defiler
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
How dare you say that about his sister and his wife. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
retiring on those super amazon dollars
― mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
bring on the hobbit sex I guess
― Number None, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades. Amazon will just be doing a different kind of unnecessary exploitation.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
Tsk.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
i think it's p ungenerous to characterize a guy who dedicated decades of his life to preserving his dad's work (and i doubt any of those books, bar maybe the silmarillion, made much money) as engaging in any kind of "exploitation."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
obviously i want a full-length douglas gordon version of PJ's hobbit slowed down to two frames a second
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31q2ZQcETw
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
xp loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
would be amusing if they did unfinished tales and didn't resolve anything, or did a whole year of beren and luthien but restarted it every episode, kept changing the names, and never completing the story
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
I saw 24 Hour Psycho! well, like, 15 minutes of it. That was cool
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link
"Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades" that's a bit harsh but it is amusing to look at all those volumes and assume that he thought somewhere someone was really poring over every detail in them at Oxford or something. cuz no one is.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
And I own them all! (Even the ones he didn't do, did I mention I got the critical edition of A Secret Vice in the mail the other day and etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link
They should use this to explore the magical ring angle a bit more
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link
the children of hurin book did pretty well iirc, prob cause that one actually told a story and wasn't just a collection of unfinished ephemera
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
did anyone here read tolkien's version of beowulf? kept meaning to pick that one up.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link
Recently got it and mean to give it a read -- my understanding is that it was never a formal translation, more of a kind of notes for himself for lectures and for reference.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link
Neeson is i think the right age for Theoden, he's a solid 10 years older than Bernard Hill was when he filmed his role. though Neeson doesn't look it. i think if you beard him up he'd look the part.
― omar little, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:07 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Literally over the hill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:08 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And at least twice as big as an underhill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:09 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That were good that
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link
You're hired.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link
The Curse of Feanor Parts 1-13
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link
Something of an update:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/how-lord-rings-tv-series-landed-at-amazon-not-netflix-1099213
Key bits:
* Five season commitment* Amazon must be in production within two years* "Amazon may use material from the films" so Warners/New Line are involved, per mentions up above* Jackson's involvement would be his choice; his lawyer "recently helped start a dialogue between Jackson and Amazon"* Theoretically the Weinsteins could still try and get some cash. They are, however, strangely occupied at present.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link
let’s not go to MorrrrrRRH’dorrrrrrrrrrRRRHH’ afterrrh all
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 05:23 (eleven months ago) link
'Tis a silly place
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 12:32 (eleven months ago) link