"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

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garbage human keeps right on garbaging

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 04:43 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I do like the "I refute it thus" ending to these things, but they still believe there's some kind of hidden law apart from what actually happens. It's a curious confusion, and it must emerge from more primitive misunderstandings, I think. And Americans; I blame Americans (and the Magna Carta).

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

i mean peace be on this judge and 1000 times yes hit em again but comments like this

Instead, “metaphysical concepts” were introduced to suggest the money “never actually existed”, although how the couple bought a property with “non-existent” funds was not explained.

don't tell the whole story do they, what he means is "my metaphysical concepts have the power of arrest and yours do not"

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

That is explicit

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Dowd it's not confusion it's a sad mix of desperation and charlatanism and anyone taking advantage of the first party should see jail time imo

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

you can see how it would confuse simple folks. maybe mortgages should be paid out in big suitcases full of money, or better yet gold or something.

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

"see these doubloons right? well we're giving you these to buy your house, and we want you to bring us a pig once a month until we've covered the value"

after "after cease to exist" (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

Barter economy you sign away twenty percent of your output for the next forty years

Course the cash equivalent there is about two grand so I'm as well to bow to the original request

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

“quagmire of mantra like incantation that bears only a passing resemblance to understandable English”

just @ me m'lud

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/30/bundy-trial

charges dismissed. that's it. great job feds.

goole, Monday, 8 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

This could have gone on a half-dozen threads, but the claim for Common Law arrest of the mayor tips the scales to this one: https://news.sky.com/story/trump-supporters-demand-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-arrest-11205566

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 13 January 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link

"disrupted by protesters from a group called the White Pendragons who shouted pro-Trump and pro-Brexit slogans."

aka The Football Lads Alliance, English Defence League etc... they keep changing their name every month now.

calzino, Saturday, 13 January 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

Their re-branding might be something to do with an EDL march getting cancelled last year when 6 people turned up.

calzino, Saturday, 13 January 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

Execution of freemen y/n

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 January 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link

(xp) lol yeah, saw this story and thought of this thread.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link

He also accused the Fabian Society of "subverting" the constitution.

luv 2 walk him thru step by step of that thought

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

leader seems to have a site called 'The People's Bailiffs' ft leveller tracts, and careful what you wish for because I think he would be happy to walk you through his thoughts on the constitution at length

woof, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link

I wdn't really luv2walk because madness doesnae listen but still

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

the people's speed-trap cops

or is there a sector of middle england which is excitedly pro bailiff, idk

mark s, Sunday, 14 January 2018 10:35 (six years ago) link

judging by the amount of bailiff porn on daytime BBC1 et al i'm guessing yes

people love pigs

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link

the tracks these common weal societies follow are really strange. how they go barmy in this specific way.

Fizzles, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link

i mean do they connect st. george’s hill with shouting pro trump slogans at sadiq khan?

Fizzles, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:02 (six years ago) link

white history, white history

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:19 (six years ago) link

gets weirder the more specific and practical they get - calling for the Bradbury Pound

woof, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:25 (six years ago) link

I think you may have discovered the people who wrote the clues for 3-2-1.

— Dave (@PTdavelewis) January 13, 2018

Alba, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

white history, white history


^ also wonder - i’m hungover so not going down the rabbit hole now - whether this means conflating the specifics of US freeman bs with UK specifics into some sort of weird utopian freeman prehistory. fuck i’m going to watch the clip again now.

Fizzles, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link

there's definitely something very chthonic protestant about it: but this kind of self-taught stubbornness -- what's in the bible and the laws is what i find there, not what some fancy priest or bureaucrat says is there -- and that the right of the land arises from the people of the land

e.p.thompson's muggletonians seemed kind of sweet -- i think because they were quietist and didn't proselytise, and had still somehow survived across 300 years -- but many of the other sects were a lot noisier, and (as "the world turned upside down" says, tho it's years since i read it) for a space of years during and after the civil war, the country became a carnival of crackpots, some solitary, some in groups

mark s, Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:08 (six years ago) link

if you haven't read The Wake yet, do

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

thanks for reminder i really need to do that when i've finished The Story of the Stone

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

if you haven't read The Wake yet, do

Such an amazing book; I can't believe it hasn't already inspired like a dozen metal concept albums.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

Paging Manowar

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

...but yeah, if there's one book that understands, empathises with and then gently skewers English exceptionalism, it is that

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

Maybe Grendel too

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

yeah the same people who told me to read The Wake told me to read that too

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link

Do it, it's fabulous

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

rub-a-dub-dub, freemen in a tub and who do you think they were?
the racist, the racist, the racist, the racist, and some other arsehole (who was also probably a racist)

faust apes (NickB), Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

Like

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

like

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Political show host April LaJune accused of running a scam

Conservative political commentator April LaJune is facing increasing allegations that she is scamming people into a well-known fraud scheme that sells the idea there’s a secret government bank account people can use to pay off their bills and debt.

In an interview with The Durango Herald on Tuesday, LaJune adamantly denied the accusations, and argued her business, while dealing with similar concepts, is different than those that defraud people of money.

“A lot of scammers are combative and lead people to think they can quit their job and not pay their bills,” LaJune said. “For us, it’s about using the ‘Accepted for Value’ process to push debts and credits across lines in commerce like people do every day.”

The allegations are tied to a 40-year-old scam that promotes the notion the U.S. Treasury creates a secret cash account in one’s name at birth. Scammers claim that through the proper paperwork, people can use this money to pay debt, bills and other expenses.

“Redemption,” “Strawman” or “Acceptance for Value” are common names for the scam, according to an FBI warning about the scheme on the agency’s website.

Scammers trying to profit off this unfounded theory often charge fees for “kits,” the FBI says, to teach people how to navigate the supposedly complex process to access these secret funds.

“This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful,” the FBI warns.

...

Through her website and daily online show “America Matters,” LaJune has episodes that specifically explain the process that supposedly allows people to access these funds.

But over the years, this idea has been continually disproved and cast as a conspiracy theory.

The FBI, for instance, explicitly warns people not to believe this scheme and asks people to report would-be scammers.

“Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens,” the FBI says. “This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate … (and) other official documents are used outside their intended purpose.”

ScamBusters, a website that provides information on common scams, said there has “never been a single verifiable case of anybody identifying the existence of a secret Treasury account in their name, let alone getting their hands on any of this mythical money to pay taxes or any other bill.”

But LaJune claims she has successfully accessed this account on two occasions: once to pay for a medical bill and another time to get credit on an electricity bill. She declined to provide documented proof.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

Fucked up that April LaJune is not a drag name.

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

I know I'll be berated (let alone fp'd) for this, but Americans are so fucking stupid. A magical bank account that pays for stuff. Of course! MAGA!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

This thread is full of Brits and Irish people that believe the same bullshit tbf

right brain ringworm (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

“A lot of scammers are combative and lead people to think they can quit their job and not pay their bills,” LaJune said. “Our scam is totally different. For us, it’s about using the ‘Accepted for Value’ process to push debts and credits across lines in commerce like people do every day.”

mick signals, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

xxp I like you, but knock it off with that shit, FP'd.

sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rC_fgpBm6M

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

surprised this is the first time I've heard of that "hidden account" thing but the whole "selling how-to kits" thing is typical sovereign loony bin scam stuff

sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

https://imgur.com/OAmFsdll.png

This is just a preview of the full video series you can unlock for a mere $1700!

mick signals, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

At Trump UniversityCollege!

nickn, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

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