The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power series

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S3, EP2:

Sam has an honest talk with Gollum. Eowyn has a realization about Aragorn. Theoden makes a fateful decision. Merry and Pippin travel south with a new friend.

omar little, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

"The One With the Mathoms"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 November 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

What isn't cool: hobbit sex.

You say that, but did you know that hobbit women all have thick hair on the top of their breasts? Changes everything.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 November 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

they haven't specifically said they're making it more adult tbf

― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 5:18 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and I'm not sure the Tolkien estate would sign off on something like that

― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 5:23 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There was a report a few weeks back that they were going to take a darker, more thrones-like take on the subject matter, but it seems like they are going to go in a different direction.

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 November 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

The goofy happy clown direction.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 November 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

the elves are immortal so they've all gotten tired of fucking already. they're over it

ciderpress, Monday, 13 November 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

"When there's a whip there's a way."

"But you're not an orc."

"Context my dear Bilbo."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 November 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

LotR isn't nearly horny enough source material for prestige tv, they'll have to work on that a bit

― ciderpress, Monday, November 13, 2017 1:55 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is perhaps the least horny literature

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:58 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't worry, the fans have filled the gaps.

― Simon H., Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The exact nature of what's happening remains kinda maddeningly unclear. The two key factors:

1) As noted, to what extent is this an extension of the Jackson movie interpretations, with associated backstory (not always Tolkien's).

2) What is the estate's involvement, and what rights in question have been sold to what texts?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, November 13, 2017 2:43 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Found it:

Amazon today announced it has acquired the global television rights to all The Lord of the Rings fan fiction based on the celebrated fantasy novels by J.R.R. Tolkien, with a multi-season commitment. The upcoming Amazon Prime Original will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust, HarperCollins, FantasyFuckz.biz, and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment....
Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new, sizzling-hot elf-sex storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring. The deal includes potential additional spin-off series.

The Lays of Beleriand indeed!

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

they paid $250m for this o_O
― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Legend of the Seeker" would have gone for a song.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

BATTLEFIELD HAM dekalogy or gtfo

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link

oh god no leave him alone he's already dead

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

>>Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob<<

I'd wear it.

ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

this is v surprising news, because christopher tolkien despises jackson's films and has been consistent in his refusal to sell the rights to the silmarillion or any of the "history of middle-earth" stuff. my assumption wd be that "in cooperation with the tolkien estate" is just a nicety/PR formality and this series won't actually be an adaptation of JRRT's non-LOTR stuff. but who knows.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

Speaking of "Legend of the Seeker," is Goodkind now pretending he never wrote a 17-book fantasy series? His website only describes him as the writer of two thriller books.

At some unknown time between September of 2016 and April of 2017, Terry Goodkind's official website was scrubbed of all references to the Sword of Truth series, and his Facebook page was made private or removed, potentially signalling that Goodkind may be moving on from his most well-known work.[26]

jmm, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

maybe the new stories are stories by by christopher tolkien, at last his creative light will shine

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

fuck you dad, hobbits suck, "in a hole in the sea lived a bobbitt"

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Oh fp

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

That goodkind factoid is super weird
Though tbh I️ too have pretended like his fantasies were never published

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

He may have deleted it, but conservative columnist John Podhoretz‏ had some tweet asking why the Tolkien estate was so greedy to ask so much money

you'd think the conservative ideal of charging whatever price the market would bear would have occurred to him. sheesh.

mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?

― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:20 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hard pass

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

Goodkind apparently identifies as an Objectivist according to wiki.
Also who is worse: Terry Goodkind or Terry Brooks?

ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

i suspect amazon wd rather come up with new stories set in the same universe than try to adapt a bunch of mostly unfinished myths and narratives from a 12-volume set anyway.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

if there are no sexy elves in the first episode i'll be very frustrated.

ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

it would be a bummer cause there are dozens of filmable stories from the Tolkien legendarium, in the appendices and the unfinished tales or wherever, that they would just create their own stories with Hobbits or Elves or whatever and call it Lord of the Rings.

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

ian otm

mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

The Erotic Confessions of the Witch-King of Angmar

ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

imo the whole Tolkien canon is overrated and the films were well-made if overwrought

having a really pulpy tv drama would be a good reflection on it

it should also invert the racism/sexism/perceptions of same in the original work to really piss off the purists

mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

I guess I mean the Lord of the Rings ones, the whole Hobbit thing I kind of paid half-attention to on television and couldn't figure out why this fun reasonable-sized story was burdened by all this crap that was grafted on to it by all the later books

it's about this short dude and his buddies who go on a quest to defeat a dragon, not sure why it needed more than one movie

mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

^^ hint: it didn't.

ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

the first hobbit was fine, the other two unwatchable

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

most gripping dishwashing scene since scarface

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Goodkind worse than brooks bc at least brooks was one of the first to the ripoff post

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

Okay, finally, an explanation as to why this is happening -- not too surprising in the end but here we go:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11/15/104426-in-historic-move-christopher-tolkien-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-estate/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

his successor: azog the defiler

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

How dare you say that about his sister and his wife. :-D

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

retiring on those super amazon dollars

mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

bring on the hobbit sex I guess

Number None, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.

jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades. Amazon will just be doing a different kind of unnecessary exploitation.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Tsk.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

i think it's p ungenerous to characterize a guy who dedicated decades of his life to preserving his dad's work (and i doubt any of those books, bar maybe the silmarillion, made much money) as engaging in any kind of "exploitation."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

obviously i want a full-length douglas gordon version of PJ's hobbit slowed down to two frames a second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31q2ZQcETw

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

xp loving suffocation is the correct term iirc

mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

would be amusing if they did unfinished tales and didn't resolve anything, or did a whole year of beren and luthien but restarted it every episode, kept changing the names, and never completing the story

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

I saw 24 Hour Psycho! well, like, 15 minutes of it. That was cool

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

I thought the show was pretty entertaining, but possibly not for any of the reasons they were aiming for

mh, Monday, 3 April 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

I will accept this judgment.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 April 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

it's just tragic they spent so much time and money on a Neverwinter Nights expansion pack

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

cranking that Mount Doom ignition switch until that bad boy turns over

mh, Monday, 3 April 2023 23:31 (one year ago) link

Squid Game had an 87% completion rate. Resident Evil was canceled for having a 45% completion rate. https://t.co/lMn7nyTLh2

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) April 3, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 April 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link

The whole thread with Zitron and David Ruddock's response there says it all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link

“more dramatic story turns”

vacillating between “oh no” and “hell yeah”, the latter being more of morbid interest

scanner darkly, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah I'm with you there. As I said elsewhere: "more dramatic story turns" = Galadriel and Halbrand are still in love, and are secretly long-lost twins. Meantime, Not Gandalf is arrested for wandering around with a tiny Harfoot. Elsewhere, whatshername and Kevin on Numenor take their relationship to new levels of drama by actually HOLDING EACH OTHER'S HANDS.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link

Oh dear elven gods do we have to buckle in for another 50 hours of hearing the exaggerated rolled R in Numenorrrrrr and Galadrrrrrriel and Elrrrrrrond?

Like, wouldn't the world be better off if someone had broken into Tolkien's house or hobbit-hole or whatever and simply rrrrremoved the rrr key from his typewrrriterrr?

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:19 (one year ago) link

The Lod of the Ings

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 05:18 (one year ago) link

let’s not go to MorrrrrRRH’dorrrrrrrrrrRRRHH’ afterrrh all

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link

'Tis a silly place

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link


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