Much digital breath has been expelled on shit turns of phrase
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
rectal prolix
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
inherited this from my actual architect friend who is irked at the hijacking of his field's terminology for software architecture, but the word "architected" still gets under my skin
you're designing or engineering architecture, you're not architecting, my god
― mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
I hear this all the time: "arguably" when "inarguably" is the applicable word. I'm not sure if this because of a complete lack of proportionality, if people get the words confused, or if they're being treated as interchangeable. Example: a news report I heard yesterday that said Da Vinci is "arguably one of the most famous painters ever." Well, no--he's inarguably one of the most famous painters ever; if you want to say he's arguably the most famous or the greatest, then sure, you can argue about that.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
I'd prefer "allegedly one of the most famous painters ever"
― President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
suspect the issue there is nervous doubling-up of qualifiers - - - "arguably" piles onto knee-jerk use of "one of the..." with neither one having really been thought through.
― gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
They're the same word tbh
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
the different word is "unarguably"
― mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
I mean they're not the same word but it's the same sentence
tbh inarguably is a nonsense word in that you might claim that it inarguably means inarguably but it doesn't
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
It's flammable and inflammable that are interchangeable, right? I can't see arguable and inarguable as anything but opposites. (Webster's treats "inarguably" and "unarguably" as variations of the same word.)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inarguable
― clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
Unarguably isn't a word and I mean fuck a Webster if he argues otherwise
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue, arguably means we live on the internet and have discovered literally nothing is either unarguable or inarguable
― mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
Yes it is
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
i think you'll find
― mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
well played deems
― loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
arugably
― mh, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
unarguably means it isn't possible to have an argument, inarguably means the thing is certain so no one will argue
Having a little trouble getting my head around this. Isn't possible to have an argument because it's so obviously certain (therefore the two words are interchangeable), or isn't possible because...what would be an example of impossibility for some other reason?
― clemenza, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
Inarguably is a mere rhetorical pose, unarguably if it existed is a technical term
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
arugulably
http://cdn.naturallifeenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/arugula-leaves.jpg
― loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
you're being radicchulous
― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, 17 November 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
Speaking of words that annoy you, I'm sorry British people, but I just can't accept calling that stuff "rocket".
― Moodles, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
it'll soon take off
― kinder, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Having a little trouble getting my head around this
Has a two-hour train journey to work this one out:
The spaceship hurtled into the star. "We're all dead," said the captain to the crew.
i) This was inarguable. There was no escape. ii) A short time later, it also became unarguable.
― mark s, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, November 17, 2017 11:00 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark
i loled
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
lol kinder
― gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link
world class, guys
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
normalization
― Mordy, Monday, 27 November 2017 05:30 (six years ago) link
I'll say it again: weaponize
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link
and the way reporters and columnists jump on neologisms like this with enthusiasm
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
what word should they be using?
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link
D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac) wrote this on thread Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible] on board I Love Everything on 31-May-2017
Normalisation
Stop saying this
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
some variation on "is this the hill you want to die on?" "i'm fine dying on this hill" "i'm going to die on this hill"
this one has spread like a virus in the past couple weeks, don't know tf why
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 12:17 (five hours ago
Nothing -- silence. When it's their turn to speak on cable TV, stare blankly into the camera.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
seriously where did the dying on hills thing come from and how did it spread so quickly
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
it's military so i blame tombot
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
it's a decades old english language idiom
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 27 November 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
Dying on a hill died quite some deaths on hills already. Not particularly new.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
I know it’s not a new idiom but it’s spread like wildfire lately gonna do a google analytics thing in a sec
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
xps
'dying on this or that hill' has been around for at least a couple of decades, but has had an upsurge recently for reasons unknown to me. it will fade into the background again in a few weeks or months, like most faddish phrases.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 27 November 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
it's upsurge is probably because taking stances on issues is such a big part of posting on social media and so many people have bad takes and strange hobbyhorses
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 27 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
Fuck horses are dying on the hills too??
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link
where did the dying on hills thing come from
just to clarify, you do understand that choosing to die on a particular hill is a military metaphor for holding a position at any cost, don't you?
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 27 November 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
clarity is important
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
yeah yeah i know it's an old term i meant why has it spread so suddenly in pop culture/discourse in the last week or two
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%22hill%20to%20die%20on%22
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
Kamikaze attacks on hills up seventy percent state office would make no comment when approached by this reporter
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 27 November 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link
is this the hill you want me to kill you on
― ogmor, Monday, 27 November 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link
Hill killton
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 27 November 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
Abe said where you want this killin doneGod said up on hilltop 61
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
“a phenomena”
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
Criteria instead of criterion.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 1 December 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link