the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

seeing this thread revive and its title provoked different thoughts than usual

Also: never forget how Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan initially conceptualized Marion Ravenwood in early brainstorming sessions for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. pic.twitter.com/JiQUOwBrWT

— Kate Hagen (@thathagengrrl) April 4, 2018

jesus christ

And her saying "i was a *child*" is still in the movie!

there was a pdf of the whole conversation doing the rounds a while back and there’s some pretty gross stuff in there iirc

Mmhm yeah, it's being taken apart on Twitter line by line as we speak

https://moedred.livejournal.com/2009/03/04/

"it was wrong and you knew it!"

Turned out a number of friends hadn't heard about that before so I'm glad it is making the rounds again.

spielberg was a big fan of the racism as i recall

1978 was before the '90s iirc

https://i.imgur.com/lVWMYk8.png

you think that's bad? this thread came into being in 2009

"He should have a mentor in this. Somebody you never see, but he refers to from time to time, somebody you want to see. The man who taught him everything. The man who gave him whatever power he has now. Maybe some supreme archeologist who's maybe ninety years old like Max Von Sydow, and is dying now."

Maybe they're just really bad at estimating ages.

"when they open the Ark all the animals should come out, marching together as couples, and they move slowly through the crowd of Nazis, devouring them or masticating them or crushing them, whatever power they possess will be unleashed. Indy and Marion will be untied by a pair of raccoons, since they're good with their hands or rather paws."

The 70s was a real weird time for a lot of age-of-consent pushing, huh

I'm pretty sure this has come up on ILX before, possibly on a thread not about crimes from the '90s

hey man if you want to create a “crimes of george lucas (pre 1990)” thread, have at it

Imagine sic in a book group; someone saying 'on page 50', and he's like 'actually, if you include the publisher's imprint and title page THAT'S PAGE 54!'

the naive days when we thought the worst of george’s crimes were creating prequels and re-editing decades-old films

As far as I've seen, these are the first specifics George Lucas has shared about what his vision of Episodes 7-9 would have been. This comes from @insighteditions awesome companion book to "James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction series" on AMC: pic.twitter.com/Wtlw8zlrqv

— Livio Ramondelli (@LivioRamondelli) June 12, 2018

wow george, that really would have been something.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Micronauts-1.jpg/250px-Micronauts-1.jpg

I think Lucas was only able to make the prequels because he didn't work consistently enough after SW for the world to realize how bad his ideas are.

Like I'm convinced that a Lucas who was productive through the '80s and '90s would've decisively burned up all of his capital a la Shyamalan.

If the Force is powered by the Whills, the Sith must be powered by the Whonts.

I read that post hearing the voice from Patton Oswalt's routine about time-travelling to kill Lucas pre-prequels.

lmao ‘this story would have been shit and everyone would have hated it but at least it would have been complete’

“I regret not getting to stink up that public restroom like I intended to”

the best creative ethos

http://500daysasunder.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screen-shot-2012-10-11-at-2-05-27-pm-e1349978764535.png?w=694
what you talking about, whills?

tbf to lucas though at least he had a new idea for the series even if it was terrible - i don’t get much of a sense that disney have much interest in doing something innovative

gee really

dunno what could've given you that impression, was it the trailer for Tim Burton's live action Dumbo?

Disney stopped being concerned with innovation about 15 years ago

lol sparkle motion

would rather see microbe wars than Star Wars The Regurgitated Jedi

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/940/mockingspongebobbb.jpg

So if I'm connecting the dots correctly, Lucas's original idea for episode VII was tweaked to remove all SW references and ultimately filmed as

http://oneguyrambling.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/216033.1020.A-202x300.jpg

When Is Someone Gonna Make A Sci-Fi Show Or Movie Without Any People In Them?

i mean the original draft for star wars was called journal of the whills or something, right? but if those microbiotic creatures are supposedly operate differently than us, what use would they have for journals?

they weren't microbes then
the great thing about those embryonic SW versions is how they are really just these collections of cool evocative names and titles with the actual story and character matter unstable as fuck. i love that.

It was triumph not journals iirc

It's almost, almost, as if Lucas considers storytelling to be the least important element of telling a story.

which can be totally awesome! if only he had the boldness to make truly ornamental/ambient SF in that mode

I agree! I wish he could've realized his strengths and played to them more.

just edit the prequel trilogy to just the cutscenes and i think you'd have it.

"This is the story of Mace Windy, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi, as related to us by C.J. Thorpe, padawan learner to the famed Jedi."

Cool and evocative names, eh?

"ophuchi" sounds like something you'd hear this guy blabbering

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Cornholion_in_Holy_Cornholio.jpg/250px-Cornholion_in_Holy_Cornholio.jpg

I assume it's a fuckup of Ophiuchi, an actual constellation

lol wins

padawan learner to the famed Jedi

this is a cool turn of phrase

just found out about this:

On the set of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Lucas shared his ideas with animation director Rob Coleman, when Coleman arrived for his first day. As Chris Taylor relates in his fantastic book How Star Wars Conquered the Universe, Lucas told Coleman “his ultimate framing device.” Taylor writes:

“The entire story of Star Wars is actually being recounted to the keeper of the Journal of the Whills—remember that?—a hundred years after the events of Return of the Jedi by none other than R2-D2.”

i do not remember that btw