have you seen the price?£64.99 is all
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link
Nine quid per disc
― Mark G, Saturday, 11 November 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link
I like those christmas records, listening to them (by myself) has been a x-mas tradition for as long as I've had digital copies of them all. Nice to see them finally get a reissue though a 12 inch would have been more efficient, it's really cool to see the 7" covers.
― akm, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
1LP + booklet, $25, done.
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
one of my favorite bits is Tiny Tim singing "Nowhere Man". it's so strange and beautiful. George puts together a really nice intro for him as well. which makes it funny when George shows up in the next one sounding like he just got out of bed and is smoking a huge joint.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
I first heard these as a kid and our cat was named Jasper so I've always pictured the Jasper of Podgey and Jasper to be him.
― akm, Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
Maybe that'll be coming later? I have a feeling part of doing them as an expensive box vs. a cheaper individual record/disc is less-informed consumers buying the latter and getting pissed that it's not actually an album of the Beatles doing X-Mas songs.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
I suppose I could google this but I don't wanna wade through the results and I'm sure someone here knows the answer:
What exactly happened with the ownership of the Beatles catalog following the 80s Revolution/Nike ad (which, iirc was the result of MJ purchasing majority share, or something?) But then MJ went bankrupt, right, and Sony got it back? Or did the Beatles (Paul, Ringo, George + Yoko) get back controlling interest at some point? fwiw this is prompted by my recent re-watching of the Mad Men episode with "Tomorrow Never Knows" in it, (the appearance of which is preceded by a clever on-screen acknowledgment that "no one gets the Beatles") that made me wonder why, if the Beatles don't control it, their shit was not licensed more often. The Nike thing seems like a real outlier, and their stuff seems to only very selectively appear in other media (like, say, Rock Band), often with the direct involvement of surviving Beatles.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
looks like Paul got the rights back in 2017? here is some history:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7662519/beatles-catalog-paul-mccartney-brief-history-ownership
https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/paul-mccartney-beatles-rights-win/
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
reading that history - kinda mystifying that Jackson and Sony didn't cash in with licensing Beatles songs throughout the 90s and into the 00s, when presumably they could have made a shit-ton.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
Get the impression that MJ was so rich and spendthrift and impulsive it was more about accumulating/collecting things, spending money over making money. Which, of course, is a pretty poor business model.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link
I think that's an accurate take on it
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
I'm not a lawyer, so
How did Nike get the rights to the actual recording of "Revolution" then? In other words, how is owning a published copyright to a song the same as owning the recording? I would've assumed EMI would own the recordings of that one or "Tomorrow Never Knows."
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
kinda mystifying that Jackson and Sony didn't cash in with licensing Beatles songs throughout the 90s and into the 00s, when presumably they could have made a shit-ton.
They sort of did, they just couldn't use the original recordings (which--iirc--they were blocked from doing after the Nike ad). I remember the Posies or some band like them doing a version of "Getting Better" for an ad.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Nike wouldn't have had publishing rights - they would have had a licence to use it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
Song publishing/copyright holder of the recording/licensing are all different things.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
Gomez did a cover of 'Getting Better' for some ad... I can't remember who for! I want to say Philips, but...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
So Nike used the original recording under license by the owner of the recording. What did Michael Jackson have to do with that then? (Serious question!)
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
He allowed them to use the actual song. After the Beatles had EMI block use of the original recording, he licensed other songs for use via covers.
Here's the original ad, for the curious...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAI8eUtwJzo
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
Michael Jackson owned the publishing, not the copyright of the original recording itself? Surely, that means that Jackson would have said yes to use of the song, and EMI would have had to have given permission to use that particular recording?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
Yeah, EMI signed off on the recording. The Beatles then went to EMI and told them not to do that anymore without THEIR permission.
Also for the curious, here's one of those Philips ads that used a cover of "Getting Better" as a tag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldUw89Yc8Y
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
Nortel Networks used a cover of "Come Together" in 2000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HCo2a5CEU
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
From what I remember (I think there was a passage about this in The Book of Rock Lists) MJ and his people had a master list of about 20-30 Beatles songs they felt were suitable for commercial licensing, pending that the licensee could meet their price.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
I seem to remember Nike using 'Instant Karma!' as well?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
no way!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
That seems unlikely. Yoko would've been the sole person to sign off on it, and I can't imagine her doing so (unless that part of John's catalog was controlled by Allen Klein).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmmpbSlr8UQ
Seems like other companies have used it too.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
haha welp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
wow
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
just... why
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
A quick Google confirms that I wasn't dreaming it and it did happen... and Yoko signed off on it, which I didn't realise. A couple of early solo tracks were published through Northern Songs, and I thought that may have been one of 'em.
(x-post)
Yup, that's the one!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
Well, I'll be
In 1988,[129] Ono allowed the footwear and apparel company Nike to feature "Instant Karma!" in an advertising campaign, after a public outcry the previous year had forced her to withdraw permission for the use of Lennon's Beatles composition "Revolution".[130]
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
So she was basically like, "Oh, you hated it when a beloved song was used in an ad? I hear you. We'll license a different beloved song."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
It seems her justification for it was to "bring (John's) music to a new audience", which I would understand if he wasn't one of the most well known popular music figures ever, even in the early '90s where The Beatles were considered "old hat" in the UK (The popularity of mid '90s UK indie changed that - of course in the US it was a different story)
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
She should have made them use 'Why' instead.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
i think that nike commercial was the first time i heard "instant karma" -- mission accomplished, yoko!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
yeah tbf, I think it had pretty much vanished from "classic rock" radio by that time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
Really? What solo Lennon stuff was getting airplay on "classic rock" radio then? I assume 'Imagine' and 'Jealous Guy' were the two big ones?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
When I was a kid ('90s), it was "Instant Karma!", "Watching The Wheels", and "Imagine".
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
I remember quite a fair bit of Lennon on VH-1 UK circa 1994-1996, but next to none on radio, apart from 'Imagine' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
Only solo Lennon I remember hearing on the radio in the '90s and later was "Imagine," and maybe "Jealous Guy" once or twice. But solo Beatles in general seemed to disappear from that radio format around '91-'92.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
That's interesting - what about McCartney's newer material?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
I've never heard any solo McCartney song recorded after 2001 (that awful "Freedom" thing) on the radio. The last time I remember a new McCartney song getting regular airplay was "My Brave Face" in 1989.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link
'Hope of Deliverance' was the last McCartney track I remember being heavily played on UK radio. The video to 'Young Boy' got some play on VH-1, but not a lot, and it remains the most recent music video I've seen on TV of his. After that, I don't remember any new McCartney track really being played on radio, aside from 'Dance Tonight' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
Classic Rock Macca as I recall is: "Maybe I'm Amazed" (live); "Jet" and the other BOTR hits; "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey"; "Let 'Em In"; "Silly Love Songs"; and "With A Little Luck". Nothing post-'78 unless it was on "Breakfast With The Beatles".
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
"live and let die" is the one i seem to hear the most on my local classicke rocke station
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
Oh yeah, that one too! Can't believe I forgot it.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
I don't remember hearing any Harrison on the radio at all, apart from when 'Got My Mind Set On You' was out and it was getting the shit played out of it. Not even 'My Sweet Lord'!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I hear L&LD from time to time. But my local "classic rock" station -- one of the worst I've heard, I should point out -- is more likely to play the GnR version.
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
Heh, "All Those Years Ago" got play.
― pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link