Taylor Swift Glitchy Snake Gifs thread 2017 - Reputation

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I don't know that a reaction away from pop necessarily involves going back to country. There were a lot of styles she was exploring on Red in particular that seemed to really suit her - I think an album of fake rock (basically the space mapped out by "State of Grace" and "Holy Ground") would be a great look for her while still allowing her to "mature" in terms of tone, subject matter etc.

Tim F, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

But if she does that, it probably will involve Dave Grohl, and noboby wants that.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

I don't really care what she does as long as she uses a Pedal Cracker with some weird effects pedal to make her voice into something interesting.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

unpopular opinion: an album full of "State of Grace" and "Holy Ground" would be beige and boring as fuck just like all of her output until recently

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

"you know what the world needs? more shit that sounds like ed sheeran"

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

"Shit that sounds like Ed Sheehan" could really mean anything but I assume you mean greyscale earnest soft-rock?

I was thinking more "Behind These Hazel Eyes" personally, though I could also see a Laurel Canyon detour happening.

Tim F, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link

i guess i need to listen to more ed sheeran

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

(i feel like that comes off as flippant but idk if there's stuff on divide that sounds like "state of grace" i'd be down)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

oh yeah that's right "castle on the hill" is def in the realm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

New Year's Day is really good, better than anything on 1989 IMHO. She hasn't lost her ability for positioning herself at the end of things and looking back on them with tenderness. I can't think of any other songwriter who's able to bring such perspective and to be so articulate about things that have ended very recently or are even still happening.

There are several other great tracks here. I really like Delicate, Don't Blame Me, Dress, Getaway Car, King of my heart. The singles and pseudo-singles sound much better in the context of the album.

cpl593H, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

i think this album is pretty awesome. if it was 12 songs instead of 16 it might be one of her three best records.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

the songwriting is really strong throughout, i wish the production was more engaging but that feels like a bit of a minor complaint now

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

do y'all have promo copies or is this on apple music?

flappy bird, Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

good tracks: Delicate, Getaway Car, Dress, New Year's Day. the emphasis on "de-li-cate" is a bit awkward though

a significant chunk of this feels like Bad Blood was the template which is really not a good thing. the production is generally bland. the I Did Something Bad bridge is especially odd?

Call It What You Want is almost good but I kept expecting a real chorus that never came and the title hook is really awkward rhythmically. the chorus feels more like it should be a pre-chorus or verse variation before the real thing when it happens the first time. King of My Heart suffers from its half-hearted cut-up post-chorus

ufo, Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

I guess I just don't understand why all the old rockist tropes, long since thought dead, suddenly are valid when it comes to Taylor Swift

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link

Got a girl from the south side, got braids in her hair
First time I seen her walk by, man I 'bout fell off my chair
Had to get her number, it took me like six weeks
Now me and her go way back like Cadillac seats

Body like a back road, drivin' with my eyes closed
I know every curve like the back of my hand
Doin' 15 in a 30, I ain't in no hurry
I'mma take it slow just as fast as I can

The way she fit in them blue jeans, she don't need no belt
But I can turn them inside out, I don't need no help
Got hips like honey, so thick and so sweet
It ain't no curves like hers on them downtown streets

Body like a back road, drivin' with my eyes closed
I know every curve like the back of my hand
Doin' 15 in a 30, I ain't in no hurry
I'mma take it slow just as fast as I can

We're out here in the boondocks
With the breeze and the birds
Tangled up in the tall grass
With my lips on hers
On the highway to heaven
Headed south of her smile
Get there when we get there
Every inch is a mile

Body like a back road, drivin' with my eyes closed
I know every curve like the back of my hand
Doin' 15 in a 30, I ain't in no hurry
I'mma take it slow just as fast as I can

I'mma take it slow
Just as fast as I can
(Body like a back road)
(Drivin' with my eyes closed) Got braids in her hair
(I know every curve like the back of my hand)

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link

I also don't understand the levels of shitposting that are going on here, except that they're probably at my expense

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:34 (six years ago) link

Ann Powers--

https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/11/10/562360434/the-old-taylors-not-dead

...Too often, African-American music has been treated as delicious forbidden fruit that white performers have plucked to become more sensual. From Mae West in the 1920s to Miley Cyrus in the 2010s, white women performers especially have slipped into something dangerously close to blackface when they long to publicly loosen up. Swift does not go that far on Reputation — it's no Bangerz — but she has stepped over a previously self-imposed line.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:41 (six years ago) link

Would like Swift’s Dead Petz.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:49 (six years ago) link

I swear this isn't a shitposting - I actually really like End Game. And I fear I'm the only person who does so :( I like how it's a little melodramatic and there's some yearning going on, but it doesn't take itself too seriously (unlike look what you made me do, which, ugh) also the guest verses are nice

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 11 November 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link

I don't think Look What You Made Me Do is taking itself seriously, it's trying to be campy (see the video) but she can't really pull it off

ufo, Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link

dress is great

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

it really is

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

it really is

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

wow whoops

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

take the first three songs and "Look What You Made Me Do" off this and it's a pretty good pop album. Still not anywhere near the standard of 1989 or Red but not the disaster I was anticipating. The key change in "Getaway Car" is such a moment, I can't tell if it's shamelessly brilliant or just a step too far. I miss her lyrics being evocative rather than descriptive but some of the melodies are gorgeous.

Meanwhile Jeppo released another new single yesterday, it's the Kid Froopy situation all over again eh?!?!

boxedjoy, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

I don't know, I've been through the album twice and the songwriting is inconsistent and maddening as fuck. Her talk-singing annoys me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

Lorde got more out of Antonoff.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

The key change in "Getaway Car" is such a moment, I can't tell if it's shamelessly brilliant or just a step too far.

the key change bridge takes that song from "good" to "remarkable" imo

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

"Dress" uses her falsetto to better effect than "Wildest Dreams" did.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

I like Ann Powers' take on this album. I think Swift's made an album that she wanted to make, in sync with her tastes, and I'm happy for her. I don't know how much I love it yet but as ever I'll live in the album for a while before I settle on anything.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

"so it goes" is.... extremely mediocre

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

"Dress" uses her falsetto to better effect than "Wildest Dreams" did.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:05 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when i first listened to it i thought "well this is the version of 'wildest dreams' that probably won't irritate me if it makes it to radio"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

ready for it
end game
i did something bad
don't blame me
delicate
getaway car
king of my heart
dancing with our hands tied
dress
call it what you want
new year's day

she's never put out an album this short but if the tracklist just ran like this i would put it above all of her albums except red & fearless. in its actual form i think i rate it next to speak now as her very good but ultimately flawed albums.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

but i'm gonna listen to this way more than 1989 in reality bcuz i'll just listen to it the way i just outlined. it's kinda how i rate beyonce's 4 very high because i take out the 3 bad songs and tack on the much superior bonus tracks in my head.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link

ha yeah otm

k3vin k., Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7JvEsCGkc

i really love this performance (and her performance of "new year's day" on fallon)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8QV5fa7xa4

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

halfway through this album, it's really generic and dull, not a patch on 1989. These songs are so forgettable. I'm sure it'll be a monster hit.

akm, Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

there'er some good songs but prob id call it her worst album? most of that is how great her other records were and still are

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

yes not a patch on red or 1989. it's just not memorable at all and it seems weird to have made this move; it's like, moving intentionally into a kind of pop music that is rapidly losing relevance. wish she'd doubled down on her strengths. oh well I'm sure it'll be successful and she'll do another great thing at some point.

akm, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link

what kind of pop that's losing relevance is she moving into on this record? genuinely curious, i haven't heard the record & don't know how to define the pop of the singles

flappy bird, Friday, 17 November 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link

that fallon performance is fantastic

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 November 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link

yeah i'm okay with that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 10:09 (six years ago) link

maybe it's cause i'm old™ but these unplugged arrangements are so nice, it's like i can actually hear the songs now

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link

On Loving Taylor Swift While Being Brown

flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

"what kind of pop that's losing relevance is she moving into on this record" pop of the katy perry ilk, which just seems to be falling out of favor these days, partly, I felt, due to the continued success of 1989 which seemed to buckle down on strong songwriting overall rather than over-reliance on one hook repeated ad nauseum.

akm, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

"pop of the katy perry ilk" doesn't mean anything, though. In 2011 it meant Dr. Luke and Bonnie McKee. Around "Prism" it meant fake trap-pop and a bunch of singles that did nothing. No one is sure what it means now, including Katy Perry.

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Can you describe the qualities of the "pop that's falling out of favor" i'm genuinely curious. sonically, lyrically, compositionally, what?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

Two-chord cheerleader-chant boilerplate? I know my guitar teacher feels really bad when kids bring him stuff like Taylor Swift or Katy Perry, and he's just got nothing to offer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link


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