Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Nothing has ruined or could ruin the show imo

Re annie, they clearly thought about her enough that her message to Laura got a slight return in the return, just as lynch always said it would if the series ever continued. I believe that they're not that interested in her as a character tho and that her storyline was complete

xp exactly

I will abstain from reading these books even though I'm curious because my memory of my experience of The Return is quite simply, perfect, and I want to continue to enjoy it on those terms.

this is really great so far https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/david-lynchs-late-style/

artforum had a good review of the Return (by dennis lim, author of the recently published "David Lynch"), but it's behind a paywall

I thought of the return ito "late style" a bit during its run, it came up briefly on the Diane podcast recently too - will read the larb thing later for sure

Really haven't read much on the series apart from the Bocko recaps & both rennebaum pieces, don't think I'll ever really wade into the cottage industry of fan analysis (that 25 years later site for example, never clicked on it but I think it must publish at least one article a day)

xp wish I'd known, is it in the current issue? always looking for an excuse to buy a big ol' magazine to flip through

yep, current issue. it also has an unintentionally hilarious feature on the future of VR and art

I'd be skeptical but the art/experimental space is a decent barometer for reading where mainstream stuff will be in a half dozen years

tons of AR stuff in art spaces seven or eight years ago

this is really great so far https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/david-lynchs-late-style/

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson)

this was excellent, thanks!

Final Dossier is such a joyless piece of shit, whytf didn't I trust my instinct and not read it.

i've also been kinda nervous to share this but i wrote about og twin peaks, fwwm, the return, vertigo, and zulawski's possession a few months ago. mild spoilers for possession which is a movie i don't think you can really spoil: http://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2017/09/27/im-not-me/

I thought I linked that in here at some point? it's so great!!

Hi all, it was quite an experience watching the last three episodes on a gray, rainy afternoon the other day. Still processing everything but I loved the tone that the finale struck, and it's definitely stayed with me.

I haven't quite finished the thread but have been enjoying going through it during a lot of music-related downtime over the last few days (waiting to soundcheck, bouncing down stems, etc).

Random banal thought - watching that old SNL parody that was posted upthread, it's weirdly prescient about some of the themes of The Return (Cooper not being able to leave Laura's murder alone after the end of the story, or the audience not being able to do so, his methods creating more problems than they're solving, etc).!

Good point! Also the Las Vegas mention

Oh yeah totally

Man, I have to say that waggish piece posted upthread is very compelling. I read it before bed and it infiltrated my dreams.

Along these lines although much more minor, I don't see any good reason at all to think the drunk in the jail cell is billy

It's extra-textual, but I'm like 99% certain that my closed captions credited his dialogue as "Billy".

he may as well be Billy really. why not I say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxyTPpPrhE

i hope there's 3 hours of that on the boxset

my review copy should be arriving on monday :)

I got mine just now. I haven't rewatched any of it so I'm looking forward to that.

mine theoretically arrives tomorrow, fingers crossed

Mine too, I'm psyched to watch the bts features so will prob jump straight to that although the urge to rewatch in bluray quality will be strong. Cool as it is to see lynch at work I'm hoping for some oddities as well (also ymmv but eg every time lynch calls dern "tidbit" I cringe my way to an early grave)

needs soup-making tutorial

In fact just one HDS singing a song extra would be worth the price

Were parts 3+4 presented as a 'feature' on TV? Because they are on the set...

they premiered together, yes

Wait, so they can’t be played separately? Is that the same for 1 & 2?

No, they can be played seperately. It's 1,2,1+2, for example, as choices.

ah ty

Anyway, for some reason I misremembered it as the the first two and the last two that were united. Never mind.

3 and 4 were made available to stream the night 1 and 2 were "broadcast," then played individually on Showtime on weeks 2 and 3.

Yeah first 4 all dropped at the same time for streaming audience (ie almost everyone)

I personally found 3 the most confounding episode at the time. Dropping 4 at the same time was probably smart to indicate the rest of the series would not be quite so disorienting.

*might* not be quite so disorienting

3 was my favorite episode of the series. Wild visuals, kinetic pacing, suspenseful as hell. I remember thinking "holy shit if this show can keep up this momentum this is going to be the greatest thing I've ever watched"

Those fucks at Amazon ran out before they shipped my copy of the box set.

They're at it again

3 was amazing

My favorite moments in Lynch projects tend to be the ones that tease all the crazy imaginative directions the narrative ~could~ take. The actual payoffs, for all their merit, usually aren't half as fun as the ones I begin to imagine in my head so yeah it's hard to top all the amazing possibilities those first few episodes teases

I personally found 3 the most confounding episode at the time. Dropping 4 at the same time was probably smart to indicate the rest of the series would not be quite so disorienting.

yeah, that was the going theory at the time. not sure if it was ever confirmed by any showtime execs, but it makes sense. 3 is a contender for my favorite episode (all the stuff with the purple world was so eraserhead-y that my heart nearly exploded), but you could just imagine it alienating a third of the viewing audience even as it happened.

3 was an instant fave, my theory at the time tho was that it was 4 that would turn most ppl off, with all the weird slow comedy at the sheriff's station & casino - obv im jackpots/Brando/bunny 4lyfe over here but in terms of guessing where the switchoffs would come that would have been my bet. No idea how correct that ended up being but judging from the main complaints as the series went on it wasn't far off.

Does anyone remember when the 1-week break came btw? If it was after pt 8 then I'd say the whole broadcasting schedule could not have been more shrewd

i think it was after 8? but then i misremembered 3 and 4 airing together so who knows (they totally did though, right?)

anyway looks like i'm not getting my box today either :|

Yeah they did xp

man amazon suck, even the guy who played that fucker Ray is tweeting about not getting his set today lol

break was after 8 yes

thx

In other news I'm like 10 minutes into the 5hr documentary on the bonus disc and already this is the greatest

Jealous