That repulse kava album is great! Twisted aggro psych metal jamming - along the same sort of lines a phantom tollbooth maybe. Check out ‘coercion’
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
the cucumbers
love camp 7
now we've entered the "people who were friends with fact checking cuz" part of the box. cucumbers debut ep featuring "my boyfriend" was pretty good. the love camp 7 guys founded the fantastic williamsburg recording studio excello.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
Owned records by a lot of those bands too, but I don’t know how many times you want me to type ‘this was not good’
Vertigo had some jams though
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
That wasn’t directed at fcc btw
i'm gonna listen to these comps for the rest of the day. so many bands i've never heard of.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Secretions/release/1967108 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Downtown-NYC-A-Compilation-Of-The-Best-NYC-Artists/release/5232183 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Welcome-To-Comboland/release/2605901 https://www.discogs.com/Various-San-Jose-Is-Ground-Zero-Were-Number-One/release/3831335 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Tampa-Smokes-II/release/3010021 https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Iowa-Compilation/release/6064936 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Glitch-Sampler-Vol-II-Class-Of-86/release/4120048 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Geyser-Anthology-Of-The-Icelandic-Independent-Music-Scene-Of-The-Eighties/release/880216 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Hit-The-Floor/release/870231 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Glitch-Sampler-Ten-Austin-Groups-In-Black-And-White/release/3839014 https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-View-From-Here-The-San-Francisco-Compilation/release/2662215 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Brain-Food/release/2682634 https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Towers-Of-New-London-Vol-I-The-Bands-Of-The-El-N-Gee/release/2501480 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Make-The-City-Grovel-In-Its-Dust/release/4421096 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Monkey-Business-Green-Monkey-Records-1986-Compilation/release/2604581 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Hog-Butcher-For-The-World/release/535309 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Scream-Sampler-Containing-Really-Exciting-American-Music/release/6687418 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Sorority-Sampler/release/1996913 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Scream-Sampler-Containing-Really-Exciting-American-Music/release/8580555
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
Chain gang were on the cover of forced exposure once I think, but I didn’t ever get round to hearing them
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I liked The Cucumbers. The Wygals record is excellent if you like that Individuals/db's Hoboken sound.
― the young, low level volunteer named (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
"The View From Here" has Camper Van Beethoven covering Country Joe & The Fish, so not a total loss
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
dig the first song on the first comp i put on. there are LOTS of primitons albums where i live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTH9G78aNo
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
i would like to hear the album by the neon judgement : weren't they goth/gloom/EBM/New Beat/Electro ?
john moore and the expressway : these guys were j&mc copyists on their debut album,saw them live, and they did that sound really well.
the high : baggy beats + guitars.
also, there is a Low Pop Suicide album that i need to add to my digital archive, so off go a hunting now, as i seem to recall it being not too bad.
― mark e, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
I paid a good $2 for the Ophelias record in 1990, when it was going through its first round of discarding. I wanted "Apron Strings", prime faux-Zep, though this territory was subsequently beaten to death by Jack White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCrA_a71n1Y
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
Sharkey's Machine were originally called Killdozer, forming about the same time as the other band, and tried to get the other band to stop using the name, but that band didn't care if there were two Killdozers. I remember playing Sharkey's Machine on the college radio station, but I cant remember what it was like. I've mentally filed them with Live Skull.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
victor delorenzo - peter corey sent me - chameleon/dali - 1990
The drummer from the Violent Femmes had a solo outing? I did not know.
mucky pup - can't you take a joke? - torrid - 1988
Bought this and three other Mucky Pup albums after being blown away by their joke-punk on the Bloom County flexi-disc. I don't remember much about this particular release, but it does contain the couplet: Adolph Hitler - a dangerous man?/I heard he got caught with this dick in his hand! They were fighting the good fight.
― how's life, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
after being blown away
*I was 11 at the time.
― how's life, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
post-r.e.m. the amateurishness goes away which is kinda sad. one dollar production makes jangle-indie sound more charming. so amazing how crappy (in a not good way) so much u.s. stuff sounds in comparison to u.k. stuff. just more ambience in cheap u.k. studios i guess.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
its like the difference between the studio sound of 1980-1983 u.s. hardcore and 1984 and beyond u.s. hardcore. did all the studios get new equipment in 1984? that big horrible echo-y sound. metal bands seemed to know how to get the sound they needed for the most part. though they got a lot more pillow-y too until death metal got going.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
Boiled in Lead was a Minneapolis Celtic/indie rock band that did quite well locally live for many years, but that Irish-y stuff always has a pretty loyal audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlaDcsWRy0
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
the Magnolias are local powerpop/punk legends, they still play, great band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oK9oH7HLJc
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
coffin break
Unremarkable but I got a kick out of their Freebird cover when I was a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzeX22sHwo
― how's life, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
agitpop are decent minutement-influenced indie rock from minnesota
actually upstate NY but were on Twin Town
coffin break did good covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjh97hVmJVc
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
the Cucumbers were cute
i def saw Coffin Break and Boiled in Lead live
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
Saw boiled in lead live once as well - they played the reading festival in 89 iirc?
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
lois is a twee legend, iirc
― brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
That dharma bums album had some bangers on it. Post REM jangle but with the raucousness of early soul asylum. John peel used to play this track:
https://youtu.be/d2fAiSev10Q
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
oyster band : peel fave cos they did a cracking cover version of a new order track (love vigilantes), but in an upbeat roots/celtic style.saw them live at reading'90 while the pixies were on the main stage, and had a brilliant time.
― mark e, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
i'm going to call it and say that 1986 was the nadir for non-rap/dance music production in the u.s.
unless 1987 was.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
one dollar production makes jangle-indie sound more charming.
otm
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
she later became courtney love. the band, not the person.
/pedant/ that pre-dated the Lois albums
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
Courtney Love singles are great, I still have two of the three
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
(xp) ah, thank you. fact checking cuz very much appreciates fact checking, obvi.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
June Tabor is in Oyster Band!!!!
― brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
crazyhead - third best of the grebo bands iirc
'bad news travels fast' was their big crowd pleaser i think.one of the better grebo bands, but no idea what i would think if i heard them now!
― mark e, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
or maybe that was just for one album? did they back her up? is that a totally different oyster band?
― brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
xp
Oysterband are the only band on here so far to have had a number one single in the UK - they did Day Trip To Bangor under the name Fiddlers Dram
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
i only included oyster band because of the new order cover. they were obviously looking for some of that Clannad crossover money.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
i feel like i've been staring at that syd straw album in dollar bins for as long as i've been staring at cindy lee berryhill's debut in dollar bins or that marti jones debut in dollar bins. all three should tour together.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, November 9, 2017 1:51 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bands that didn't have access to professional studios in the early '80s knew that one guy across town with a 4-track reel-to-reel, plus that other guy who we could totally borrow a mixer and some mics from. The goal of such recordings was just that everything could be heard; there was no way to approximate big production.
Then these bands came back from tour with a little money, and maybe a label willing to put out a record and pay for time in a pro studio. Studio time! I didn't think we could do that! Now it can sound "professional"!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
oh god, so otm
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
"Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain" by Dogbowl is great. His other albums don't deviate much from it but aren't as good. Haven't heard any that stuff in years though.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
in 1985 the sound got so mushy here! like, just terribly weak and that infernal echo and everything got gauzy and indistinct. just abysmal drum sounds. things actually improved when people started recording for CD. i never thought i would type that sentence. but at least you could hear the music again.
maybe the don gehman cougar mellencampisms of lifes rich pageant made people tighten their sound up too. this is merely conjecture. 1985 was ground zero for "atmospherics". but there was no budget mike hedges to make your crappy enigma record death rock sound like hyaena.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
This is upthread a ways now, but aren't Samiam pretty well-known in certain 90s punk/emo circles? I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a buyer for one of their early records.
its like the difference between the studio sound of 1980-1983 u.s. hardcore and 1984 and beyond u.s. hardcore. did all the studios get new equipment in 1984? that big horrible echo-y sound.
― scott seward, Thursday, November 9, 2017 12:36 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've wondered about this too! It went hand-in-hand with stylistic shifts in hardcore that I also mostly hate.
― JRN, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
Started back in '83Started seeing things differentlyAnd hardcore wasn't doing it for meNo MoreStarted smoking potThought things sounded better slowMuch slower and heavierBlack magic melody to sink this poser's soul
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
(I also vastly prefer pre-84 USHC)
I heard Greater Than One on college radio just a couple days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nRjmS_qAQc
― crüt, Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
The Windbreakers and Winter Hours are both fantastic bands. I love them both.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
Ah darn - someone already claimed The Slugs record
― BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
this old neon judgement song is cool.. totally harsh awesome coldwavey thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1WjgkIbX0
― brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
yeah, good band
― sleeve, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
Yeah, he was in the Mary Chain and then later on he was in Black Box Recorder with Luke Haines
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
somebody tell me about downy mildew
― brimstead, Friday, November 10, 2017 9:59 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Downy mildew refers to any of several types of oomycete microbes that are obligate parasites of plants. Downy mildews exclusively belong to Peronosporaceae. In commercial agriculture, they are a particular problem for growers of crucifers, grapes and vegetables that grow on vines.
― Evan, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
ha!!
their first record + the name looked really familiar. plus it's tagged as "ethereal" on discogs so i was intrigued
― brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
Flower! Fantastic band, precursor of Versus. I chatted up the lead singer before a gig, top bloke.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 10 November 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
If that Skinner Box is the dream pop one with what sounds like a detuned upright piano (The Playhouse / The Imaginary Heart Of), its a keeper. Like the Hex (if the Steve Kilbey/Donnette Thayer duo), it was one of rather few albums that hit my 4AD/goth-lite buttons in the late 80s, before I discovered the Projekt mail-order catalog.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
Scott, do you do much mail order?
― earlnash, Sunday, 12 November 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
Lots of familiar names from my distant past here. Going to single out one:
joey kline - pomp and circus pants - popllama - 1988
This I still have plenty of time for -- Joey was a long running member of Seattle legends the Squirrels (and they're back so I think he is too). "Mrs. Smith," which leads off the album, remains one of the best Morrissey slams I've heard. (And since FWIW Joey's openly gay himself this neatly sidestepped the Warlock Pinchers problem.)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 November 2017 05:03 (six years ago) link