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bringing the pain

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

talk about OWNING BREAKFAST

maura, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.businessinsider.com/subways-closes-stores-spirals-downwards-2017-12?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=auddev-test643

"I can't eat the lettuce, and that's a problem, and I've told them," she said. "They're just not listening."

...

"Subway needs to get back in touch with their roots - freshly baked bread and fresh ingredients assembled with care," said Travis York, the CEO of the creative agency GYK Antler. "These offerings are not only genuine but also different from the competition."

He added: "They can't just toss a bunch of stuff on random bread products and expect it to impress an increasingly discerning public."

^^^ fightin' words at the food laboratory

Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link

"The employees even look tired."

now that's just mean

j., Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

it's true!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

one franchisee said. "There's not a connection, I feel, with the demographics and the target."

It seems Subway has forgotten about that old truism in business... "the target is always right".

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

knew they were doomed when they dropped the V-cut

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 December 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link

I haven’t been to a subway since they dropped that, apparently?

mh, Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:02 (six years ago) link

you probably felt like they had made their point by then.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 December 2017 05:05 (six years ago) link

Fieri still has plenty to keep him busy

j., Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-dark-side-of-your-5-footlong-business-owners-say-it-could-bankrupt-them/2017/12/28/425b6ae8-e671-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.15741a91c6a8

In addition to Subway’s plans to relaunch the $5 Footlong, McDonald’s will revive a version of its Dollar Menu next month. Taco Bell has promised to expand its selection of discount items, as have Wendy’s and Jack in the Box.

we've been dollar-menu-less all this time??!?

j., Friday, 29 December 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

Basically, that article doesn't say that Subway franchisees would lose money, only that they'd make less profit and therefore pocket less money for themselves. When the owners start making less than twice what they pay their employees, then I might start sympathizing. A little.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link

"The brand is tired," said Joel Libava, a franchise consultant. "The employees even look tired."

Y'know, there's something here. I'm a shit fast food apologist and I've avoided Subway like the plague for as long as I can remember. The 1 to 1.5 times a year I eat Subway (on average) always remind me why I don't eat there.

Primarily, I don't like this narrative of sandwich customization and topping choice that Subway have cornered themselves into. I want a sandwich prepared properly, ideally by someone I can't see, and then I want my transaction processed by another staff member, as a kind of system of checks and balances. Many Subways these days are so broke that there's just one miserable looking teenager left behind, making the sandwiches and doing the cash.

I don't like feeling like I could suddenly have to initiate an argument with these people: "No, not that piece of disgusting tomato, the other one... That's too much mayo... Ok... Where the fuck do you come from where you put that much mayo on something? Have some fucking decency.... Lady, you're not supposed to wear the plastic gloves while you use your mobile phone, which you probably also use while you sit on the toilet. "

At McDonalds the sandwiches are prepared off-screen and delivered to me for payment by someone who does a slightly better job of seeming happy about the whole thing. I have fewer complaints because I don't see the process in action.

If I do have a complaint at McDonalds, the fact that I will have to complain to a politically neutral cashier after the transaction is more appealing than at Subway, where there is the nagging feeling that I should have complained to the artist during the making of the sandwich and that the fact that it's terrible is somehow my fault in the first place. It just makes me not want to go there.

McDonalds will survive because, to some extent a child can still point to a McDonalds burger and identify it as a burger. Subway won't survive, because what they make aren't subs, or sandwiches, or burgers.

fields of salmon, Friday, 29 December 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link

so your theory is that the cashier needs independence from the sandwich artist because otherwise shame about the lack of artistry will be impossible to suppress?

j., Friday, 29 December 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

It's the system of parliamentary sandwich democracy my forefathers fought in the sandwich wars to defend.

fields of salmon, Friday, 29 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link

I don’t buy into the disconnect because it’s not a tipping situation (controversial)! Like who cares if you hassled someone about the placement or selection of ingredients because you pay a set amount and ringing it up is just ending the transaction, not a judgment on how well they put stock ingredients in there correctly

mh, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link

Nah, I'm with Fields. Shit ain't supposed to be like a hot dog cart.

pplains, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link

only the worst drunks argue at a hot dog cart

mh, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link

Agree though that a franchise restaurant of a national restaurant chain shouldn't have just one employee handling food/counting money.

http://i.imgur.com/Tvfgnpq.jpg

pplains, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link

lol pp

johnny crunch, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link

"It's all fresh."

"...is it."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 December 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

Primarily, I don't like this narrative of sandwich customization and topping choice that Subway have cornered themselves into.

I don't like the narrative of customization in general that has sprung up in sandwich places/fast casual chains like chipotle and all the poke bowl places. Like I trust people whose job it is to create tasty flavor combinations and make them into menu items more than I trust myself not to point at every ingredient that i like in a vacuum until it all congeals into an overpowering mess.

oiocha, Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

Don't make me post the video for "Freedom of Choice" in here

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

But creating an overpowering mess is the point of subway...

Frederik B, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Not chain restaurant related, but I bought a couple of coffee-wine drinks in cans at the 99 Cent Store (curiosity) a while ago and they were as misguided as that sounds.

http://funwine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/chard_splash.jpg

http://funwine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/cabarnet.jpg

Their web site: http://funwine.com/

nickn, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link

It seems not well thought out that those pics seem to show the cans vomiting their own contents

El Tomboto, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link

no one told you this wine went from coffee to chardonnay

*clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*

pplains, Sunday, 28 January 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link

wowww

maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 05:27 (six years ago) link

there is too much

we just need to do a rethink

j., Sunday, 28 January 2018 05:32 (six years ago) link

nickn, thank you for venturing outside (into?) the can for evaluation

mh, Sunday, 28 January 2018 06:28 (six years ago) link

Taco John's been had Potato Oles for years and they are better

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link

Del Taco has decent fries, too. Haven't tried the TB fries yet.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

Burger King’s chicken fries isn’t even a fry

hueg if true

j., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xuJsk1c.jpg

"IT'S A COOKBOOK!"

pplains, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

While it seems like fool’s errand, Taco Bell has more space in the fried potato game than they lead on.

About what you'd expect from a 'journalist' who rates fast food.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

voting other for 'perfect' because every time i hear him sing 'dancing in the dark with you between my arms' i wanna punch the radio because who the fuck says 'between your arms' instead of 'in your arms'? ffs i hate this cunt

― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:55 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heard this again on the radio and almost swerved into oncoming traffic yelling about 'between my arms'

ed sheeran's gonna get me killed before i get to look for the first time upon the face of my infant daughter

i gotta be a gazpacho man (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 February 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link

tbf, the ed sheeran flavored biscuits 'n' gravy are delicious

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 5 February 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

ed sheeran’s fucked me up so much i can’t keep threads straight ffs

i gotta be a gazpacho man (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

doritos sells sour cream flavored chips here, not sour cream and onion, just sour cream

there's also "cool american" which is cool ranch

sour cream come in a green bag & cool american in the familiar blue bag so I think they're not the same

I do not want sour cream flavored doritos

note that plain doritos are the best tortilla chip widely available here though they are still not great since all the corn tortilla products widely available here have a lot of flour in them instead of being straight corn, wtf

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 5 February 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

at one point I was unsure whether to be angry about "cool american" instead of "cool ranch" but tbh that substitution reveals many things

mh, Monday, 5 February 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mcdonald%E2%80%99s-fries-chemical-may-cure-baldness-study-says/ar-BBIJqnv

Japanese scientists may have discovered a cure for baldness and it lies within a chemical used to make McDonald’s fries.

A stem cell research team from Yokohama National University have used a “simple” method to regrow hair on mice with dimethylpolysiloxane, the silicone added to McDonald’s fries to stop cooking oil from frothing.

j., Monday, 5 February 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

so do I rub the fries directly on my head, or

mh, Monday, 5 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

My arteries are clogged with solidified fat but my hair looks terrific

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

xp
Directly on your thighs, iirc.

nickn, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

that Doritos article made me think of:

http://www.clickhole.com/article/powerful-pringles-has-unveiled-line-damp-chips-won-5938

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link

I guess most of the articles posted on this thread might as well also be posted in the "things that look like onion articles but aren't"

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

thread

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:49 (six years ago) link


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