The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society Poll

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I love the instrumental break on 'Last of the Steam Powered Trains', and I was surprised to learn that 'Village Green' was recorded a couple of years before the album but yet they didn't do anything with it until '68.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I love this album. Definitely one of the best 60s pop albums (up there with Pet Sounds, Revolver...).
The flow of fantastic melodies is unstoppable and the sound is warmer and fuller than on their previous output.
I'm surprised by the winner of the poll, though.
It's a good and fun song but nowhere near many of the other tracks.
I would have said "Animal Farm" or "Village Green".

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 November 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

"Walter", definitely.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 10:50 (six years ago) link

Also, "King Kong" from that time is such a prelude to T-Rex !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 November 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

I'm surprised by the winner of the poll, though.
It's a good and fun song but nowhere near many of the other tracks.

I agree - I love the track but see it more as an extended intro to the LP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link

honestly think this is one of the best albums ever made. hard to pick a favorite but "Animal Farm" bounced around in my head for a very very long time.

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

this thread reminded me to listen to this beautiful album again, good job guys

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

They were on fire from 1966-1971 ... they had an excellent singles discography from 'You Still Want Me' onwards, of course (their cover of 'Long Tall Sally' is a bit meh) but I love pretty much almost everything they put out 1966-1971.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 07:21 (six years ago) link

The six albums from Kink Kontroversy to Lola are a fantastic run. Who has done better than that besides Frank Sinatra in the 1950s?

Josefa, Friday, 10 November 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link

impossible to choose, really, but i'd have gone with "walter" which always makes me melancholy. prob my favorite album of the decade.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 08:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah they were incredible during that period. I must say I don't know much about their post Lola albums.
As for the Village Green album, I thought there might be something lacking for all its perfect pop : there's not really an emotional song, like "Waterloo Sunset" or "Don't Talk" or "God Only Knows" for Pet Sounds or "For No One" for Revolver, for instance.
It's mostly all pure upbeat pop. "Village Green" might be close to that kind of emotional song but it's not exactly that. There's more distance (in the songwriting and the arrangements).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 November 2017 09:03 (six years ago) link

AIXTC - some versions of this album include 'Days', which should be that emotional song you're looking for.

I have this album in mono and stereo edition, all on one disc, which has the original tracks as well as additions like Days. Lots of greatness.

I could go with the winner of the poll, but Last of the Steam-Powered Trains is another of my favourites here.
(But if Days would be eligible, it'd be Days!)

Valentijn, Friday, 10 November 2017 11:02 (six years ago) link

The fact that 'Days' (one of my favourite songs of all time) isn't on the album yet the album is still incredible says a lot about how strong the songwriting is.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

the Kink Kronikles compilation that covers this period is insanely good as well, and includes a lot of the awesome singles that weren't on the albums

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

The six albums from Kink Kontroversy to Lola are a fantastic run. Who has done better than that besides Frank Sinatra in the 1950s?

― Josefa, Friday, November 10, 2017 2:41 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Percy soundtrack, though...

I mean, it's not awful, but it's hardly on the level of the records that came before and after.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

Wikip has Percy coming after "Lola" i.e. it's the last Pye album

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Percy did have one great song on it though. I think it's called "God's Children". Given that it's a soundtrack and they did do the excellent Muswell Hillbillies the next year I guess I can forgive them for it.

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

wait, not the next year. the same year. though MH was clearly a different sound that doesn't really jive with the Pye era. it's probably the only great album they did outside it.

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

"The Way Loved Used to Be", "Moments" and "Dreams" are all excellent too, re: Percy soundtrack

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

Those three and "God's Children" are better than most of "Muswell Hillbillies".

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

"God's Children" is an incredible song, was a long time before I heard it

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

Wikip has Percy coming after "Lola" i.e. it's the last Pye album

― Mark G, Friday, November 10, 2017 10:32 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

D'oh, you are correct! I probably misread your post as "Kontroversy through Muswell Hillbillies," which is often pointed to as The Flawless Run.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

That wasn't me.

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

the Kink Kronikles compilation that covers this period is insanely good as well

and the great lost kinks album, which came out a year later and is every bit as good, compiling b-sides, unreleased miscellany, etc., from the same insanely good era.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

I'd say The Kinks and Small Faces are my two favourite '60s bands from the UK. Just so much great music, a lot of which has still not been overplayed to death.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

(I'd put The Zombies in third place for Odessey and Oracle alone)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

Highly recommend y'all grab this 1969 performance: http://bbchron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/kinks-1969-11-27-san-francisco-fillmore.html

Isi, Saturday, 11 November 2017 08:19 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

one of my favorite albums ever but man, I've already got the 3 disc version and the 180g vinyl, what else do you need

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

From what I've read, there's maybe 1-2 unreleased songs. Here's one of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOBjwkaW-T0

It sounds like this was recorded in 1973, as was (supposedly) the other unreleased song. I think they re-recorded some of the VGPS stuff then, to be used as part of a Preservation production. Most of the "unreleased" material on this set is in the form of backing tracks, alternate mixes, and radio/tv appearances.

This also has some Ray solo 2010 live recordings, for some reason. So basically, this is pretty barrel-scrapey, but comes with all sorts of vinyl doodads and posters and things.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

this thread reminded me to listen to this beautiful album again, good job guys

― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:08 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh hey I’m listening again. When I’m thinking about this album, and not listening, I often focus on the lyrics and forget about how hard it rocks.

twin sinema (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 November 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

It fucking rocks.

Thunder and liiightning!!

twin sinema (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 November 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

I always think that Wicked Annabella gets very Beatlesque at the end, in an I Am The Walrus/Yer Blues kinda way, until I remember that the Kinks were contemporaries of the Beatles, and that Village Green probably predates some of the Beatles stuff it reminds me of...

henry s, Monday, 19 November 2018 04:29 (five years ago) link

It probably doesn't, though. That was why it wasn't the big hit at the time, being 6 months too late

Mark G, Monday, 19 November 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link


Title: ARE THE VILLAGE GREEN PRESERVATION
Artist: KINKS
Label: BMG
Cat no: BMGAA09CD
First charted: 08.11.2018
Peak Position: 47

Mark G, Monday, 19 November 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

Yo how's the Swedish version?

brimstead, Monday, 19 November 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

pretty cool that every song got at least one vote

#BreakingTheWorld (sleeve), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

"Time Song" slays

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

This album is 9 for me.
-1 for the production.
Davies had no experience in the area and it shows imo.

nostormo, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:03 (eight months ago) link

Ha. I like the production a lot. I’m just not really into the songs.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link

Imagine this album with the sharper, cleaner sound of Arthur. Perfect.

nostormo, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:19 (eight months ago) link

The production on "Arthur" is far from perfect.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link

Kinks records in general not known for their immaculate production tho tbh.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link

To say the least.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:17 (eight months ago) link

Far from peefecy indeed but so much better compared to Village
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nostormo, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:18 (eight months ago) link

*perfect*

nostormo, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:18 (eight months ago) link

actually think Muswell Hillbillies is the worst produced Kinks LP

VGPS doesn't sound good but I think that fits the pastoral/return to simpler times theme of the album

frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:22 (eight months ago) link

actually think Muswell Hillbillies is the worst produced Kinks LP

totally agree

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link

Is hard to pick a worst one!

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:51 (eight months ago) link

imo there's a difference between albums that sound grungey and lo-fi and those where you suspect the engineer or producer actually fucked something up and Muswell crosses that line. I actually looked up my copy on Discogs and there are a bunch of comments about whether or not Dynaflex pressings just suck along with responses that say "no it actually just sounds like that"

frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:59 (eight months ago) link


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