Wikipedia has good background on this.
Perry says:A lot of people had input into that record because Steven and I had stopped giving a fuck. "Draw the Line," "I Wanna Know Why," and "Get It Up" were the only things Steven and I wrote together. Tom, Joey and Steven came up with "Kings and Queens," and Brad played rhythm and lead. Brad and Steven wrote "The Hand That Feeds,
― calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
Checkmate, title track
― calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
great album. kings and queens is the only one i don't care for. "long ago in days untold..." has me tuning out from the start. voted get it up.
― new noise, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
With the exception of Rocks and Toys in the Attic, it always seems like these guys were actively looking to save a few bucks on album art.
― how's life, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
They just didn’t have connections to Warhol and Robert Frank
― calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
i doubt getting a cover drawn by al hirschfeld was so cheap.
― new noise, Thursday, 9 November 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link
listen to this brad
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link
title track btw. possibly their finest hour. so fucked up & blurry but that last verse reaches places Tyler usually backs off from. they were never this band again after this record.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link
Should’ve named the album Let’s Do More Coke!
― calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link
I saw them at Reading Festival about this time, mid-day, wasn't fussed.
There was a CBS tent where they gave away freebies of the "Draw the line" single, "BLF" ws the b-side. Liked them both - there was nothing like that on-stage...
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 November 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
hmmmm maybe this is actually the title track. the riff is amazing in its ability to contain both driving bluesy hard rock and jangle (a la "sick as a dog")
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
it's been a while since i listened to this whole record but iirc i also love the version of "milk cow blues" that closes this
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
wow i am a huge fan of the wikipedia entry for this record
manager David Krebs suggested that Aerosmith record their next album at an estate near Armonk, New York called the Cenacle, "away from the temptation of drugs." The plan failed miserably, however, with Tyler recalling, "Drugs can be imported, David...we have our resources. Dealers deliver!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
"critical mass" is such a bizarre song
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
i have enormous affection for it even though it is barely a song. the harmonizing guitars toward the end! the fake-out fade out (i will always love these)! the double-tracked tyler vocal curving into the mix at wildly inconsistent volumes!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
god i love the riff in "get it up" and how the band sounds like they're falling apart trying to play it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
"sight for sore eyes" is p much the ultimate "we just did not give a shit" song here
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
this is a record that i always hoped would be a secret masterpiece but the indifference with which they recorded it is sorta audible. still, "kings and queens" sounds so enormous
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
best rock band in the world for approximately 4.75 albums though
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
Rocks, Toys, and the Profitable Emotion boot are the ones I rep for
― calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
"record their next album at an estate near Armonk, New York called the Cenacle"
brownsville station made a great record at the cenacle. also, my maternal grandparents were living in armonk at the time draw the line was being recorded! small world.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
i doubt getting a cover drawn by al hirschfeld was so cheap.― new noise, Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:00 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― new noise, Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:00 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Had no idea this was a known artist, btw. I had always presumed they got some guy from down by the beach.
― how's life, Saturday, 11 November 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link
Tyler was as good a lyricist as rock had in those years and when he ran out of steam a piece of my heart broke off forever. Even here, he was doing stuff that merits close study by anybody who wants to know how to made a lyric sit right in a groove & tell a story without telling too much & set a scene. yet another of my never-to-be-written broadsheets is "underrated steven tyler verses i have parsed"
Arriving in boatsBlack hooded coatsTormentors climbed into my roomI crawled under my bedCovered my headBut they're flushing me out with a broomThe leader, she's smallPinned my ass to the wall[incomprehensible, variously reported without satisfaction]Time after timeShe'd be readin' my mindbut she never got the feeling to lastCelebrate, celebrate, celebrate itThis is critical mass
Celebrate, celebrate, celebrate itThis is critical mass
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
Yes.
― calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
I mourn the death of "I Wanna Poll Why!", my favorite use-the-word-poll-in-the-title poll thread title ever.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 06:19 (six years ago) link
Always forget that "Get It Up" and especially "The Hand That Feeds" were about as close as '70s Aerosmith got to Disco.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link
Screams of no replyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyThey DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIED
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
Holy shit you nailed it!
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link
i really need to revisit this album. a few years ago I pretty much listened to everything after Rocks.
shit like this is why I get angry when assholes incorrectly call them a second-rate Stones
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link
Holy f that Neanderthal post is cracking me up, people at the bar are having a moment of silence
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:07 (four years ago) link
you best believe I nailed those notes biznatch
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
No doubt son
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link
I wish Johnny cash had recorded “draw the line” on one of his American recordings. Would have loved to hear him drawl “Indian summer, Carrie was all over the floor”
― calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
Do I detect an early Roxy influence on "Bright Light Fright"?
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 March 2021 04:27 (three years ago) link
I think 90% of what I enjoy from Aerosmith is either on Rocks or Toys in the Attic, and the title track here and maybe one other song elsewhere is like the remaining 10%.
Stereo mix (which they didn't bother mixing until 14 years later) sucks - stick with the original mono:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpmUsC5-Caw
― birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link
I can’t discern any stereo separation there. I a/b’ed it with the version on Spotify Probably my old ears
― calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
No, that's not the stereo mix, it's the original mono. Let me reword what I posted:
The stereo mix sucks, and they didn't even bother mixing it until 14 years later.
Stick with the original mono mix, which is what I'm posting here.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
Where can one hear the stereo version? Doesn’t sssm to be on YouTube or Spotify
― calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link
If you can find the box set (Pandora's Box), try there - it was originally mixed for that.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/track/1Ybeyj9GHPy7XaApKHL97UYou’re right, it sounds like sh1t
― calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
The official Aerosmith YT channel just added a remaster of the old Live In Houston '77 VHS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbENK3Ai9bY
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
that S.O.S. raises blisters. damn.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
70s Smith was godhead
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link
I’ve taken a day to think about this and prepare my response Joey’s backlit mullet and bass drum technique steal the show
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link
Imagine what the band would have been with a little more swing
― calstars, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
Impressive that Steven can hit the notes on “saddle” - maybe it was early in the tour?Also, “back in the saddle” is a great euphemism for getting some nookie
― calstars, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link
Looking at the dates, this apparently was at the end of the Rocks campaign, since the DTL sessions started right after in the summer of '77 (which explains maybe why only the title track of that one airs here).
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link
Or actually, according to Wiki, these shows were <during> the DTL sessions, which had already began in June before these shows at the end of the month (which are mis-tagged as being in July). Man, band workloads were nuts back then!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
Here's a rougher version of the second show, with some extra songs not in the restoration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCre5ZuqhQ
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link