Tusk Vs The White Album

Donald Trump vs The White Album

i don't think you have a soul

... or understand the concept of 'funny'... or 'spooky'... or anything else really.

Probably one of the moments where it's not trying to be funny ... the ending to 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' is a great example of this, the "when ah hold yooou in maaaah arms" part made me laugh out loud the first time I heard it.

Given the provenance of the song, the idea that the band (and John specifically) were not trying to be funny here is . . . "mind-boggling" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it. Deliberately obtuse, but in a Dunning-Kruger kind of way.

yeah that shit is funny and i’m pretty sure they knew it

they're definitely not trying to take themselves seriously on that song. or pretty much any song on that album save for, like, Julia or something

The Beatles as a series of jokes. Hmm, yeah... I can get on board with that assessment.

Take one of "Happiness, BOOM BOOM hrah ah ah ah"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/875000/images/_879875_basilbrush_300.jpg

Funniest is Yoko's line in Bungalow Bill. I always thought it was John doing a silly voice.

Also the version of Obladi on Anthology at the end of which John is mocking Paul with, "Obladi blada, brother."

Yeah it never occurred to me that that was Yoko. Bungalow Bill's Beach Boys analogue would be 'Little Pad'

Ooh good connection

Arent Yoko (and Patti?) also on Birthday?

Yoko also appears on Revolution 9 'you become naked...'

Speaking of which, I wouldn't mind hearing Turrican's opinion of Smiley Smile, which is one of my favourite albums of all time and for similar reasons to White Album.

I guess the unifying things between all these, including Tusk and also Sandinista and countless others is that they're 'burn out' albums with cult followings.
Band reach what is largely regarded as the peak of their work. They've worked hard, put all their creative powers into their album. They've sweated and worked and collaborated with each other and argued and drugged themselves and had love affairs and the world loves them.
They set out to make a follow-up, but find it impossible to summon the patience to go through these motions. They're still brimming with ideas, their egos suitably lubricated, but the sheer effort involved with working like that and living with each other again is too much.
So they work fast and get a bit scrappy - 'we know what we're doing this time, we're The Beatles, we don't need to sweat over this like we used to cos we're pros'.
They take shortcuts, pump out the songs, preferably with as few of the other members around as possible.
And so you end up with these big, dopey, mishmash albums that are weirdly appealing but tonally all over the place. They don't quite compare to their predecessors because they're in a different league. Critically, they come across as flawed but in an endearing way.

FYI the White Album is better than Tusk

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, November 7, 2017 2:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably but I only listen to Tusk anymore

The Smiley Smile version of 'Wind Chimes' is a zillion times creepier than anything on The Beatles. I've said this before on a Beach Boys thread, but the thing about Smiley Smile is that it's a far less commercial/inviting record than Smile would have been, and more uncompromising too.

You mean "Wonderful" yeah?

Xp Well I wasn't asking about which was creepier. I agree, Smiley Smile has some very eerie moments on it - Fall Breaks and Back To Winter is another.
Would you say the same about Peppers/TWA as you would about Pet Sounds/Smiley Smile?

I take it TWA didn't start off as originally intended either.. did the Beatles have another concept in mind before choosing on a double album of genre exercises?

Bungalow Bill is garbage, Little Pad is transplendent, I don't see the connection.

You mean "Wonderful" yeah?

― Mark G, Wednesday, November 8, 2017 4:13 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That too. The Smile version of 'Wonderful' is stunningly beautiful, but the Smiley Smile sounds like a paranoid episode set to music.

*version

Would you say the same about Peppers/TWA as you would about Pet Sounds/Smiley Smile?

No. I'm also unconvinced that The Beatles ever had a concept in mind for The Beatles beyond them having a lot of material between them and seemingly being unwilling/unable (for whatever reason) to work out what to record and what not to record.

Yeah, I think it's significant that there is only one tiny photo of them altogether on the poster inamongst the other pics

i love the mouse on mars track that samples "wind chimes"

Woah, what now?

harvey sid fisher was on my radio show a few weeks ago!
tusk is better

xp It's on vulvaland, samples a bit of the vocals and speeds them up, it sounds really cool