Tusk Vs The White Album

what's the funniest part of the white album, i think it's when paul wails "OH NO IT'S HELTER SKELTER" in a high pitched voice

"they are -standing- stilllll"

Hehbub zeebubbhahbub zebub

Always gets a chuckle

"Back in the USSR" is the funniest thing on the White Album!

ha yes, especially being the opening track!

with tusk maybe it's more about "what's the moment that makes you feel most vulnerable" or something, there are so many.

^ probably Over & Over for me

which is such a bizarre song to open an album with, it's such a 'middle of side 3' kind of song. the sequencing of Tusk is really interesting too, I always thought the album sounded like a loop, in kinda opens in media res. TWA is much more of a journey with a solid beginning, middle, and end. listening to Tusk is like walking in on a party that never started and never ended

there are a good number songs on TWA that, had they been released as private press 45s from some unknown band in ohio or florida or something, i imagine they'd fetch three figures on the secondhand market, be anthologized on "pebbles" or similar, and be regarded as stone cold classics of the psychedelic genre.

otm, i could easily see some of the songs on TWA having the appeal of someone like Harvey Sid Fisher in another universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLfe3dBb69k

whoops sorry this is the hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy3LcfkYHV4

my personal favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvNT5OGnMg

The funniest moment on The Beatles? Probably one of the moments where it's not trying to be funny ... the ending to 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' is a great example of this, the "when ah hold yooou in maaaah arms" part made me laugh out loud the first time I heard it.

i don't think you have a soul

I suspect there's more than a few songs on The Beatles that would have been swept under the carpet and forgotten about by now if they hadn't appeared on a Beatles album. A lot of these tracks have been over-scrutinised for this exact reason.

Donald Trump vs The White Album

i don't think you have a soul

... or understand the concept of 'funny'... or 'spooky'... or anything else really.

Probably one of the moments where it's not trying to be funny ... the ending to 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' is a great example of this, the "when ah hold yooou in maaaah arms" part made me laugh out loud the first time I heard it.

Given the provenance of the song, the idea that the band (and John specifically) were not trying to be funny here is . . . "mind-boggling" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it. Deliberately obtuse, but in a Dunning-Kruger kind of way.

yeah that shit is funny and i’m pretty sure they knew it

they're definitely not trying to take themselves seriously on that song. or pretty much any song on that album save for, like, Julia or something

The Beatles as a series of jokes. Hmm, yeah... I can get on board with that assessment.

Take one of "Happiness, BOOM BOOM hrah ah ah ah"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/875000/images/_879875_basilbrush_300.jpg

Funniest is Yoko's line in Bungalow Bill. I always thought it was John doing a silly voice.

Also the version of Obladi on Anthology at the end of which John is mocking Paul with, "Obladi blada, brother."

Yeah it never occurred to me that that was Yoko. Bungalow Bill's Beach Boys analogue would be 'Little Pad'

Ooh good connection

Arent Yoko (and Patti?) also on Birthday?

Yoko also appears on Revolution 9 'you become naked...'

Speaking of which, I wouldn't mind hearing Turrican's opinion of Smiley Smile, which is one of my favourite albums of all time and for similar reasons to White Album.

I guess the unifying things between all these, including Tusk and also Sandinista and countless others is that they're 'burn out' albums with cult followings.
Band reach what is largely regarded as the peak of their work. They've worked hard, put all their creative powers into their album. They've sweated and worked and collaborated with each other and argued and drugged themselves and had love affairs and the world loves them.
They set out to make a follow-up, but find it impossible to summon the patience to go through these motions. They're still brimming with ideas, their egos suitably lubricated, but the sheer effort involved with working like that and living with each other again is too much.
So they work fast and get a bit scrappy - 'we know what we're doing this time, we're The Beatles, we don't need to sweat over this like we used to cos we're pros'.
They take shortcuts, pump out the songs, preferably with as few of the other members around as possible.
And so you end up with these big, dopey, mishmash albums that are weirdly appealing but tonally all over the place. They don't quite compare to their predecessors because they're in a different league. Critically, they come across as flawed but in an endearing way.

FYI the White Album is better than Tusk

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, November 7, 2017 2:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably but I only listen to Tusk anymore

The Smiley Smile version of 'Wind Chimes' is a zillion times creepier than anything on The Beatles. I've said this before on a Beach Boys thread, but the thing about Smiley Smile is that it's a far less commercial/inviting record than Smile would have been, and more uncompromising too.

You mean "Wonderful" yeah?

Xp Well I wasn't asking about which was creepier. I agree, Smiley Smile has some very eerie moments on it - Fall Breaks and Back To Winter is another.
Would you say the same about Peppers/TWA as you would about Pet Sounds/Smiley Smile?

I take it TWA didn't start off as originally intended either.. did the Beatles have another concept in mind before choosing on a double album of genre exercises?

Bungalow Bill is garbage, Little Pad is transplendent, I don't see the connection.

You mean "Wonderful" yeah?

― Mark G, Wednesday, November 8, 2017 4:13 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That too. The Smile version of 'Wonderful' is stunningly beautiful, but the Smiley Smile sounds like a paranoid episode set to music.

*version

Would you say the same about Peppers/TWA as you would about Pet Sounds/Smiley Smile?

No. I'm also unconvinced that The Beatles ever had a concept in mind for The Beatles beyond them having a lot of material between them and seemingly being unwilling/unable (for whatever reason) to work out what to record and what not to record.

Yeah, I think it's significant that there is only one tiny photo of them altogether on the poster inamongst the other pics

i love the mouse on mars track that samples "wind chimes"

Woah, what now?

harvey sid fisher was on my radio show a few weeks ago!
tusk is better

xp It's on vulvaland, samples a bit of the vocals and speeds them up, it sounds really cool