brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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fond memories of the media ripping on Corbyn because he couldn't fill a shadow cabinet

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Priti's husband looks impossibly tall, maybe her husband is an animatronic robot cunningly concealing two more lobbyists!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Oh dear. It was just reported on R4 that Priti is in even deeper shit because of "further revelations about her Israel visit".

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

LOL @ Nadhim Zahawi on Newsnight, what a clown, apparently Labour MPs giggling at Boris' inept performance in the Commons are encouraging the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. The thing is, at times like this, the Tories usual plan would have been to sober up Michael Fallon, stick him a ministerial car, down to the BBC, prop him in front of the cameras to huff and puff as a 'safe pair of hands' but, as we now know, his hands were anything but safe!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

No10 saying Priti Patel definitely NOT going tonight

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) November 7, 2017

What would it mean to you, that sentence - "I haven't seen Evil Dead II, yet"?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

Ha otm

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

"Breaking: Priti Patel has admitted to two more unauthorised meetings with senior Israeli officials since her return from Israel in August."

She won't be getting to so see Evil Dead 3!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Priti's husband looks impossibly tall, maybe her husband is an animatronic robot cunningly concealing two more lobbyists!

― calzino, Tuesday, November 7, 2017 10:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heh, this exactly was my thought. Maybe she's extremely small? I couldn't figure it out.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

patel is fairly short. here's her with 6ft 1inch david cameron

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/02/05F4F75400000514-0-image-m-39_1431394652357.jpg

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

May was supposed to be the PM who would hold the reins tighter and know more about what her Cabinet was doing. Now like Trump she just finds things out by watching the news.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

Was she really stupid enough to think either that this was OK or that it wouldn't be found out?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link

She had the Israeli security minister in for a meeting *in Parliament* in September, didn't tell No 10 about it when this kicked off earlier this week, and only revealed it to them today (after the other surprise they got from R4 this morning).

Tories briefing now that she is actually quite dim, and this would support that.

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

Some of us have been saying for years she's a complete dimwit, Tories getting with the programme at last then.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

Brexit seems to have a great appeal to notable intellectual,er, lightweights in the Tory Party: Liam Fox, David Davis, Priti Patel.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

@AlbertoNardelli 10 hours ago
DD: we've done loads of work. 58 detailed docs of prep.
MPs: Anyone read them?
DD: Just summaries
MPs: Show us the docs
DD: They don't exist

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

lol

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

DD: we've done loads of work. 58 detailed docs of prep.
MPs: Anyone read them?
DD: Just summaries
MPs: Show us the docs
DD: They don't exist https://t.co/hSFeUNSche

— Alberto Nardelli (@AlbertoNardelli) November 7, 2017

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

DD, 13 days ago, Dexeu Committee:
“Of the 57” sectoral impact assessments “They are in excruciating detail”
Today: “not the case they exist” pic.twitter.com/SqqJzta9Hw

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) November 7, 2017

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

Davis personally downloaded them from his Word 97 onto a floppy disk protected with his usual password 'BergeracMI5'. The number makes it super safe.

Also from Faisal

How about this for weird - minister @alistairburtUK in Israel officially at same time as his boss Priti Patel unofficially - didnt know pic.twitter.com/3D4ZETW380

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) November 7, 2017

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

I assume she's being fired today, but I don't really get why it didn't happen beforehand, she's no threat to May and no leadership challenge is likely to mobilise around her any time soon. Yeah it looks like terrible judgement appointing her in the first place but there have been many examples of obviously terrible judgement in the past year, and not sacking her just makes May look weak, defensive and ineffectual.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 09:42 (six years ago) link

Panic and paralysis don’t lead to anything like sane decisions.

stet, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 09:54 (six years ago) link

she is very dim but also quite ‘charismatic’ so not ideal to have her as an arch-brexiteer pissing from the back benches. it surely makes boris unsackable now too, if she goes.

||||||||, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link

she’s the brightest of a dim bunch in the brexiteers. and he going surely upsets the balance in the cabinet without appointing another brexit binch.... and when you look down the list of those. speaks volumes that liz truss is still a minister fgs

||||||||, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

binch

Could we not

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:19 (six years ago) link

On the other hand I haven't seen a single Tory MP prepared to stand up and defend her, so I doubt they're exactly going to rally round her any time soon.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:19 (six years ago) link

Boris is already unsackable. I don't think Priti Patel is charismatic either, she's one of those types political commentators are always talking up but are in fact completely useless, like Chuka Umunna or Dan Jarvis.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:23 (six years ago) link

Dan Jarvis... there's a name from dim and distant past, especailly the dim part.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

Bernard Jenkin has defended her

Bernard Jenkin, the Conservative MP and, like Priti Patel, a prominent Vote Leave supporter, told the Today programme this morning that Patel had made “a genuine mistake”

One genuine mistake, repeated 14 times and counting

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

yeah no one's arguing it wasn't a genuine mistake, that's kind of the point

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:28 (six years ago) link

my guess is that may's judgment (see passim for my opinion of same) is that moving ANY brexiteer onto the back binches, whosoe'er it be, can and probably will catalyse the revolt against her

(nadhim zadhawi's appearance on newsnight last was less a shot at labour than a shot at may if she thinks to waver on this)

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

a small segment of twitter is on Plane Tracker watching her plane from Nairobiinch its way towards Judgement

imago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link

As per that twitter thread yesterday, 'it was a genuine mistake' is just saying 'our International Development Minister isn't actually an agent of a foreign power'.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:38 (six years ago) link

Was it a genuine mistake of her to reschedule her flight to an earlier time, thus avoiding having to make a statement to the Commons, leaving hapless duffer Alastair Burt to do so instead?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link

if they can straight-up binCharlie Elphicke before a case has even been brought against him then perhaps they really are in bloodletting mode

imago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link

Number 10 instructed Development Secretary Priti Patel not to include her meeting with the Israel foreign ministry official Yuval Rotem in New York on 18 September in her list of undisclosed meetings with Israelis which was published on Monday, the JC has learned.

Ms Patel listed 12 meetings in the statement, and the emergence of two more last night is thought to have made her sacking imminent.

But the JC understands, from two different sources, that Ms Patel did disclose the meeting with Mr Rotem but was told by Number 10 not to include it as it would embarrass the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

Downing Street has been claiming all week that they didn't know about the meetings.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link

This story just keeps getting more entertaining.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

Has Stephen Pollard found a way to blame this on Corbyn yet?

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link

Fine, I missed a meeting, calling people clumsily bowlderised versions of bitch is funny now.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link

winding up Andrew Farrell is what is and always has been funny

imago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link

LOL I thought that was misspelling of bunch?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:52 (six years ago) link

back binches is funny, i will die on this hill (alone) (far from the battle)

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

It is hard enough keeping up with zugzwang without having to study the Urban Dictionary as well!

I just passed a local Asian builder this morning who has FREE PALESTINE splashed across the front of his van. I felt like stopping + asking: So what do think of the Priti situation then?

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

For someone with charisma she has managed to alienate the lazy UK workforce and the Asian community, that doesn't seem like someone with broad appeal.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link

I can't countenance the idea that she has charisma at all, but fuck knows how some people think. Apparently 40% of the electorate would still vote for this shower.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link

Mum, can we go to Disneyland next year?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

"And Marcus Dysch, the Jewish Chronicle’s political editor, thinks his boss’s scoop raises a question about Theresa May’s future."

another layer of intrigue.

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:17 (six years ago) link

Huge scoop from @JewishChron editor @stephenpollard: Number 10 *did* know about #PritiPatel meetings with Israelis, and encouraged her not to include them on Monday's list: https://t.co/zSRefNJmDR pic.twitter.com/oIYqkuYZMz

— Marcus Dysch (@MarcusDysch) November 8, 2017

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

Did Netanyahu also know that the PM knew or did he not know that the PM did not know?

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

If it turns out that Number 10 lied about this/tried to cover it up, could that take May down? Feel like a stronger PM would struggle in these circumstance, but it also feels like mutually assured destruction is the only thing keeping her in a job right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link


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