people making simplistic analogies between big real news and nerd culture bullshit
― na (NA), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
nerd culture bullshit
― niels, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
i don't think it's a big deal, you tidy up your place so that the cleaner can clean without having to move things around or bump into things etc
― brimstead, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
uh the cleaning thing i mean
Elaborately intricate Stranger Things fan art
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
people who immediately jump to "my computer/phone is listening to my conversations" in discussions about social network/advertising privacy
after reading a thorough article detailing all the ways data actually is, provably and sometimes publicly disclosed to be collected, there's a top comment saying "I'm sure my phone is listening to what I say to serve ads"
sitting here cringing, there's a whole article just above your comment explaining how this is unlikely
― mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
I posted a song suggestion to Beyond Yacht Rock's patreon but accidentally posted the wrong youtube. Clearly suicide is the only way to salvage this situation.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
haha I know how that feels
― niels, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link
The Netflix practice of rolling out a whole series in one go a) making online discussions impossible for anyone who hasn't binged the whole lot in one go and b) loading the entire internet with instant spoilers.
(currently on Stranger Things s02e04)
― Chunky Backgammon (onimo), Thursday, 9 November 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link
yeah, part of the fun of serialized television is the waiting time between episodes where you can discuss the show with other people. Netflix has taken out the social aspect of tv watching, which is something that I'll miss very much.
Most of the fun of LOST back in the day was the crazy time travel discussions I had with other people who were following the show. This wouldn't have been possible if they just dumped out entire seasons at once.
(I guess I should be irrationally embarrassed by all time I spend thinking about time travel in science fiction, but I'm not.)
― silverfish, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
I'm embarrassed that I posted that to the embarrassed instead of the angry thread.
― Chunky Backgammon (onimo), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
People who seem incapable of being anything other than completely sincere and guileless. Like, I don't know how to comport myself around someone who isn't at least a little tinged with cynicism.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link
I like those people.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link
I don't dislike those people, they just make me IE.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
Like, I GET IT, PEOPLE, I'M BROKEN, STOP REMINDING ME.
conversely, have known a few people who seem incapable of communicating without some layer of irony and sarcasm and they are absolutely exhausting to be around
― circa1916, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
and when i see something like "fluent in sarcasm" on a dating profile or w/e it's an immediate NOPE
haha yeah
that and Interests: Working out
― niels, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
Yes to both of those turn-offs, for sure.
There has to be a balance of sincerity and sarcasm for me to feel comfortable. The people who are SO sincere that they don't seem to 'get' humor make me feel like I'm talking to aliens.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
But yes, people with perma-Dreamworks-face can fuck off.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link
Weirdest thing is when one of the completely sweet and sincere marry one of the completely cynical. I've seen this happen twice: first one was a disaster and I'm still not sure I believe it happened (I met them both after they'd split up). Second one works really well and perhaps the cynical guy isn't as cynical as he liked to make out.
― kinder, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
haha i'm one of those people who never gets jokes
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
is that why you prefixed your comment with a precautionary laugh?
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
idk probably! also because i thought "haha" when i read about finding those people (my people) embarrassingtbrri think a lot of things i do could be things other people find embarrassing tbh but that doesn't stop me.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
I think there's some overlap between the indefatigably-sincere and eternally-optimistic. Now I'm thinking of a neighbor who absolutely refuses to allow anyone to get away with saying anything self-negating, to the extent that she doesn't seem to pick up on humorous self-effacement. I was mentioning some small town where I was going for a weekend getaway and said in the driest tone imaginable that it was probably a murder town where I was going to get murdered and she was like, oh don't say that, I'm sure you'll be fine! And I was like...yes, I'm sure I'll be fine, too.
It's entirely likely that most of the problem here is mine.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
This was all prompted by a coworker giving an unprompted gift to another coworker who's a veteran along with this very sincere show of gratitude for his service to the country, etc. And it was all very nice! And there's nothing at all wrong with it! And it made me so irrationally embarrassed!
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
it is becoming clear that you find sincerity embarrassingpersonally, i do not! i like it.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
Mmm, that's really not it, because I really can't get with people who have no capacity for sincerity. I think it's that I find people who seem incapable of anything but sincerity embarrassing.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
I feel like some of the context is lost by reducing this to a single moment. These are guys (very nice guys, I hasten to add!) who have long and involved conversations about e.g. the variety of delicious offerings at TGI Friday's.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
those people sound boring not sincere
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
Oh yes, unquestionably, but it's their earnest enthusiasm for mundanity which leaves the most indelible impression. Like, whether the topic of conversation is live action Disney films of the '90s or documentaries about bridges, they are deeply engaged and present.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
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many of these people are drowning in cynicism, the outward appearance is a survival mechanism, speaking from experience
― brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
just sayin
Yeah, I always wonder whether there's something under the surface that I'm just not seeing. Like maybe a proclivity for strangling people in secluded rest areas. Because I'm cynical! And can't just let people have their childlike wonder and subtext-free meaningful interactions!
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
that is also a problem
the cynicism I encounter that irritates me is a problem because it's the default mode of operation and I get the impression people sometimes don't have an actual opinion they can articulate, they just have this disconnected cynicism
until you accidentally stumble on something they really do have an opinion on, and then they genuinely become irritated
― mh, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
um we just cry at home generally lol
― brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
xp
brimstead also otm, defaulting to cynicism is a defense mechanism
I like defaulting to ambivalence, makes life much easier
― mh, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
i feel like i am similar to old lunch but these days i tend to be more annoyed at my own cynicism and jealous of people who are capable of being sincere
― na (NA), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
we old
― mh, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I mean the key thing here is recognizing the irrationality of my embarrassment. It's reactionary because unbridled sincerity too often disarms me and leaves me feeling, y'know, feelings and stuff. The wizened shell of the crank often shelters a tender heart. Or whatever. Shut up.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
It makes me IE that old lunch has to continually explain his IE. This is neither sincere nor sarcastic.
― Jeff, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
When two people recognize each other on a train and start a conversation but aren’t close together so they end up talking through people.
― Jeff, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
Okay, wait, let me try to explain this again...
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
Both of Jeff's examples are on point. Similar to the second is that thing where you run into someone you barely know on the train and you exchange pleasantries followed by 45 minutes of the interpersonal equivalent of not knowing what to do with your hands.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
Right! Like can I put my headphones on and look at my phone now!?
― Jeff, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
I just realised my most IE thing. Seeing people on TV shows like Rogue Traders, or politicians, however dispicable, get collared by reporters/TV show hosts with a bunch of cameramen and the ensuing walkaway chase plus "I'm just looking for answers, why haven't you responded to my enquiries" dialogue, usually resulting in someone getting in a car or hiding in a cupboard.I just find it excrutiating for everyone concerned.
― kinder, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
Oh I hate those too. And I'm usually on the reporter's side!
We had... a big long difficult problem with our school district last year. Still do. They put our elementary school on the chopping block, and our PTA organized this opposition that had us going to all of these neighborhood "town square" meetings in force.
It went well, and it's something I've used to be positive about the current affairs of my state and country. But that first meeting, Lord. It was a year ago, the day after the fucking election. I'm like one of three white parents in this room full of people staring down the white superintendent. There's all this tension, and after the superintendent concludes his little powerpoint presentation, one of the other white parents stands up immediately and goes "SUPERINTENDENT [CHALMERS], BOB FRESCO OF THE MIDWAY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE THE NAMES OF THE ---" and starts going on about something that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CLOSING SCHOOLS.
I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed because I looked like I could've voted for Trump. I was embarrassed because I looked like one of the kinds of people pulling their kids out of the district. And finally, I was embarrassed because I thought people might associate me with that granola yoo-hoo shouting from the corner.
I guess I don't like confrontation?
― pplains, Saturday, 11 November 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link
<3
― mookieproof, Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:14 (six years ago) link
I don't know whether the subject is truly innocuous or the embarrassment irrational, but I had insomnia one night and wanted to put on something familiar to watch and fall asleep to, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was on Netflix and it was something my roommates had in regular rotation back in the day, so I figured why not. And hooooooooly jesus. I'm not a Kevin Smith fan, and I thought the movie was pretty stupid a decade and a half ago, but it turns out that it's actually skin-crawlingly cringeworthy to boot. I felt profoundly embarrassed for everyone involved. Mortified, even. The feeling is akin to discovering a video of your high school self drunkenly pontificating about the mysteries of life, occasionally punctuating your pretention with an errant 'snootchie boochies!'.
― Ooey Gooey Fresh and Frothy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link