maybe relevant to this discussion - there seem to be a bunch of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse videos on YouTube that do pretty much everything possible to get around Disney's copyright detection algorithm, including increasing the speed, flipping the screen, and dropping out big chunks of the show. they're completely unwatchable but I assume someone's making a quick buck there.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
My "favorites" are the MMC "episodes" that turn out to be video of some terrible tie-in game
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
sorry to be That Guy but we don't let our kids watch TV or YouTube except on special occasions and i gotta say it works out GREAT. and if you think "it's too late, can't put the genie back in the bottle" well, in our case at least, we totally could. we used to let them watch cbeebies every day, but the crying and whining about how many episodes they could watch, and the screaming when the TV got turned off, was eventually just too much for us so we just shut it down for good. it only took three or four (hellish) days for them to stop asking about it. when grandparents are over the kids get to watch some TV, usually DVDs brought by the grandparents, and sometimes as a reward for good behaviour we'll let the oldest one watch graffiti stuff on YT but i watch that shit like a HAWK (or at least keep an ear out). no way am i going to let them just follow "watch next" links, i just do not trust that shit at all.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
no way am i going to let them just follow "watch next" links, i just do not trust that shit at all.
You shouldn't, it gets weird and terrible very quickly.
For us, we have the TV on as background noise constantly so putting it on their channels made sense for us. So far the whining has been manageable (and there's been little-to-no screaming when the TV goes off).
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
good god you are blessed. honestly.
speaking of thomas the tank engine this is at least as disturbing as anything in the algorithmic shite factory article:
https://youtu.be/iO6qIM2WO6k?t=168
"i think he deserved his punishment, don't you?"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
yea we don't do any screen time either. our kids are 2 and 5. it's not wholly an intentional thing, we just don't watch a lot of TV ourselves and don't own any tablets or anything. though i think our older kid's autism diagnosis made us a little more firm about it since screen time is especially not recommended for young kids with autism. it does make things easier in general i think. i don't judge folks who do. there are a lot of times when we've thought it would be a nice thing for them to do while we're cooking dinner or whatever, but instead we just let them play on their own with trains, cars, outside in the yard, etc.
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
old-skool Thomas is terrifying; did you ever see the one where they were laughing about lorries driving off of mountains?
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
lool
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
sorry to be That Guy but we don't let our kids watch TV or YouTube except on special occasions and i gotta say it works out GREAT.
I am increasingly thinking about this. We have clamped right down on portable screens — no iPad at all except on flights, no phones except in extremis, eg in the restaurant that inexplicably took 40 minutes to bring our food.
TV he has had daily, tbh, in restricted amounts at breakfast time and bedtime. Breakfast time because schedules mean it's often him left unsupervised in the flat while the adult in charge is showering, and TV is a reasonable way of stopping him climbing the bookcase or other lethal activities. Bedtime because it's a good mood manager — 30 mins of watching brings him down from late-evening mania.
I think we could definitely go without at bedtime, once we trust his behaviour a bit more probably go without at breakfast time too.
― stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
We just recently started turning off the TV 30 min before bedtime because without it, they're much more likely to go to bed without argument; sometimes they'll go early and ask for extra stories which is A++
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
We experimentally began allowing a 1/2 hour of screen time per weekday and 1 hour on the weekends when my son was turning 2. We've held it at that level for a year and he doesn't seem to want any more.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
What, I thought Jonny Jonny Yes Papa was an American thing?! It's on Little baby Bum and other nursery rhyme things like Dave and Ava, absolutely baffled by it. Telling lies, ah ah ah
Son also likes appalling quality knock-off animations which is particularly hilarious as his dad is fairly senior in VFX/animation and it pains him
― kinder, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
Little Baby Bum is out of India IIRC; I had never heard that song before encountering that video, which was honestly one of the most perplexing experiences of my life.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/johnny-johnny-yes-papa
apparently someone just made the damn thing up 8 years ago
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
Right. It seems to be of Indian origin and recent - not, like a lot of YTK vids, an Indian version of an Anglophone nursery rhyme. Which would be fine if it were not also stupid.
― piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
F's crafty "no papa" face makes it all worthwhile for me
― stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
My son flipped the script and indicated that we should do Daddy Daddy? / Yes Sammy? / Drinking beer? / No Sammy.
― piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that Johnny Johnny 3D thing freaked me the fuck out when I first saw it - I've caught a fair few of these on "weird youtube" and seen some very odd Elsa from Frozen Caesarian Section type games on hosting sites but I think not having (or having much to do with) kids means I may well have missed out some proper weirdo content.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
I still cannot believe that Elsa game exists
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
I just spent a good 30 mins trying to find a Medium post that made waves over the summer abt this "phenomenon", creepy youtube for kids. It was about these youtube clips, seemingly created for children but with bitter, torturous twists (stuff like Peppa Pig being degraded, hurting etc). The comment sections all had comments in some form of code language, seemingly gibberish, but when decoded lead to child pornography websites and degradation porn. No conspiracy (or lunacy) theory stuff here, trust me, it really did lead to horrible websites. But I cannot for the life of me find the medium article any more... :-(
It's probably deleted. Regardless, it's where tl;dr James Bridle got his info from though, but in his Medium article he's only barely scratching the surface.
In short: there's some fucked up stuff just a click away. The digital variant of luring kids makes me nauseous.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link
KIDEODROME: scary "Kid's Youtube" algorithms, fringe programming, insert conspiracy theory here
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link
Have generally been on board with Hey Duggee but ffs the stick song gaaaaah
― calumerio, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
STICKY STICKY STICK STICK
― Madchen, Thursday, 14 December 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link
beachville at 8:20 7 Mar 12Add Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitsu to this list, please.
― how's life, Thursday, 15 March 2018 11:07 (six years ago) link
Paw patrol is fecking terrible. Just awful. Thomas and Friends is like a masterclass in storytelling in comparison
― kinder, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:26 (six years ago) link
It’s amazingly terrible but I’m really jealous I didn’t come up with it. Like half of every episode is just a montage of them getting into their vehicles. Thankfully my kid isn’t that into it other than when he’s sick and has already watched Moana, Dino Dana, and Peg + Cat all of which are orders of magnitude better.
― joygoat, Sunday, 8 April 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
We’re in a Sarah and Duck/Puffin Rock phase, which are about the chillest cartoons ever.
― Jeff, Sunday, 8 April 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link
we've pretty definitely jumped out of this thread - they're all about match of the day and effing top gear now
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
Hey Dugee is very enjoyable, i am discovering.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 9 April 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link
Hey Dugee is the best thing on the BBC at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K05N2jqFHc8
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 April 2018 09:31 (six years ago) link
This is the only clip I can find of their Apocalypse Now parody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-FrziBbWU
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 April 2018 09:34 (six years ago) link
That Apocalypse Now bit felt like a present just for me
― calumerio, Monday, 9 April 2018 09:36 (six years ago) link
Aaaahk! My daughter has for some reason become obsessed with watching these interminable unboxing/reviewe videos where over-excited middle-aged American women with irritating voices and vocabularies consisting of only 14 words other than "soooo cuuuute!" open up endless blind-bagged collectible toys. I am going insane.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 06:53 (six years ago) link
My daughter is deep into a Pokemon obsession right now and while I guess the show isn't the worst, she always wants to have imaginary pokemon battles with me and I can never remember any of their names our their powers. She spent three straight hours last night skipping around the house and babbling about various Pokemon and their attacks and evolutions. I'm proud of her for memorizing all these facts and I want to participate in her obsession in some way but my brain just shuts down at anything beyond Bulbasaur, pretty much.
― how's life, Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link
I would welcome Pokémon at this time. RN my son got into watching Beyblade (a show which makes exactly zero sense) and that led him to Yo-Kai Watch.
Occasionally, though he comes up for air and rediscovers some shows I kinda liked when my daughter was little (10 years back). The music in Wonder Pets, Backyardigans, and Bubble Guppies is pretty decent.
― let's not talk about the gincident (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
Man, I miss Nick Jr. All I see now is "Hey guys, what is up. Today we're going to learn how to glitch out of the police station in Murder Mystery 2...."
― pplains, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
Beyblade doesn't look like something I'll have to worry about but this Yo-Kai Watch thing seems to have a ton of cute animals, which is right up her alley. I am very afraid.
I miss Wonder Pets and Backyardigans.
― how's life, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
Wonder Pets featured some of the most negligent parents in the world though. </judging>
― pplains, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link
Yeah, what the fuck, mama kangaroo? YOU EVEN HAVE A HANDY POUCH TO KEEP YOUR YOUNG IN.
But the "...Save the Beetles" ep was choice.
I like the Boinga song from Backyardigans' "Mission to Mars." Bubble Guppies brought some clever lyric writing (like the internal rhymes in "all of the bones that everyone owns / underneath the skin they're in").
― moresoupial (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link
Is this 'baby shark' song an actual thing or just something my son has picked up from somewhere?
― kinder, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR2o6k8aPlI
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
this is the one I know and am doomed to have in my head forever: http://youtu.be/XqZsoesa55wI'm not actually sure which version he was trying to tell me about ...
― kinder, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
1.3 BILLION views
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
jesus christ
they teach it in day care. its got its own coordinated hand movements and everything
I saw the vid sleeve posted, thought "ahh that's where it comes from". later came to realize that every cheapo kiddie animation factory does this song. so who knows.
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 03:37 (five years ago) link
we spent some time in Mexico and found out that they do this stuff way better than us
there are a lot of really catchy ones. and not in the same way as "Baby Shark, doo doo doo doo". plus the videos are actually kind of funny. these two crack me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_c-HVfe4VM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGFOXpgsw1M
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 June 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link
My 8yo son mentioned last night about some terrible catchy song kids in his class were singing and asked me to look it up so I found it, or a version of it, on YouTube. It is indeed a terrible catchy song with ok animation but then 55 seconds in a cartoon boy pops up with a handgun, wearing a tshirt that says "Jerk":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-xWhG4UU_Y
wtf is that all about? Have I stumbled across one of those sinister kids youtube channels that people were talking about a few months ago?
― nate woolls, Thursday, 14 June 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/knHwe2dIPt— webding (@WINDuckyQuaCKer) June 2, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
My kids are now big into Peppa Pig and....I have to say it’s actually pretty funny. It’s made me laugh out loud several times. Kinda reminds me of The Fuccons.
― frogbs, Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
Bluey is good for similar reasons
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 14 March 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link