brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Flagged your post NV. Not that I want you to be banned at all (I enjoy your posts), but just think that you could taken a moement to have posted 'Sad' before adding your MRAs line. FP'd for being a tad heartless!

i'd assumed that may was told to stay and soak up the blame for the unfolding disaster that |||||| alludes to until an opportune moment presented itself

however, i suspect the nature of this unfolding disaster specifically precludes an opportune moment from occurring

Reading about the 1979 No Confidence motion has got me excited now. Is a poetic reversal of it really unlikely?

@DawnHFoster 1h1 hour ago
Priti Patel hasn't turned up to answer the urgent question on her conduct because she's taken holiday

Damn whose army is she trying to fund now?

She'll last until she's seen to be actively endagering the whole idea of Brexit. Unfortunately for the rest of us that means she's going to have to move closer and closer to the fanatics.

@GuardianHeather
Johnson turns on Thornberry, accusing her of "seeking to score political points", deflecting blame from the Iranian regime.

Well there we are.

So, they aren't having a Cabinet meeting, they're having a fight out in the yard. Right?

Carl Sargeant.

Or, does it have to be on the rolling RIP thread first?

FP'd for being a tad heartless!

that's fine, i agree!

.@Number10press confirms that the Prime Minister learned about Priti Patel's plan to give aid money to the Israeli army from the BBC, today.

— Robert Hutton (@RobDotHutton) November 7, 2017

Fuck me this is an absolute clown car.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/07/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-requests-meeting-with-boris-johnson

Why the fuck did Johnson personally ever have to comment on what this woman was or wasn't doing btw? Anyone have more details on the initial arrest (I read a tweet saying that Reuters trains journalists however as the letter from the Reuters CEO says she was there on a family holiday)?

priti patel not exactly doing wonders for that particular explanation

Priti's claims of proposing int aid to the Israeli military would contravene current UK policy in occupied Palestinian territories, it's total bs!

Any explanation of what she's doing going on holiday with Stuart Polak anyway?

peston's reporting patel is going

So I am hearing that Priti Patel is likely to be sacked within hours. That would be two cabinet ministers gone in a week.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 7, 2017

fond memories of the media ripping on Corbyn because he couldn't fill a shadow cabinet

Priti's husband looks impossibly tall, maybe her husband is an animatronic robot cunningly concealing two more lobbyists!

Oh dear. It was just reported on R4 that Priti is in even deeper shit because of "further revelations about her Israel visit".

LOL @ Nadhim Zahawi on Newsnight, what a clown, apparently Labour MPs giggling at Boris' inept performance in the Commons are encouraging the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. The thing is, at times like this, the Tories usual plan would have been to sober up Michael Fallon, stick him a ministerial car, down to the BBC, prop him in front of the cameras to huff and puff as a 'safe pair of hands' but, as we now know, his hands were anything but safe!

No10 saying Priti Patel definitely NOT going tonight

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) November 7, 2017

What would it mean to you, that sentence - "I haven't seen Evil Dead II, yet"?

Ha otm

"Breaking: Priti Patel has admitted to two more unauthorised meetings with senior Israeli officials since her return from Israel in August."

She won't be getting to so see Evil Dead 3!

Priti's husband looks impossibly tall, maybe her husband is an animatronic robot cunningly concealing two more lobbyists!

― calzino, Tuesday, November 7, 2017 10:24 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heh, this exactly was my thought. Maybe she's extremely small? I couldn't figure it out.

patel is fairly short. here's her with 6ft 1inch david cameron

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/02/05F4F75400000514-0-image-m-39_1431394652357.jpg

May was supposed to be the PM who would hold the reins tighter and know more about what her Cabinet was doing. Now like Trump she just finds things out by watching the news.

Was she really stupid enough to think either that this was OK or that it wouldn't be found out?

She had the Israeli security minister in for a meeting *in Parliament* in September, didn't tell No 10 about it when this kicked off earlier this week, and only revealed it to them today (after the other surprise they got from R4 this morning).

Tories briefing now that she is actually quite dim, and this would support that.

Some of us have been saying for years she's a complete dimwit, Tories getting with the programme at last then.

Brexit seems to have a great appeal to notable intellectual,er, lightweights in the Tory Party: Liam Fox, David Davis, Priti Patel.

@AlbertoNardelli 10 hours ago
DD: we've done loads of work. 58 detailed docs of prep.
MPs: Anyone read them?
DD: Just summaries
MPs: Show us the docs
DD: They don't exist

lol

DD: we've done loads of work. 58 detailed docs of prep.
MPs: Anyone read them?
DD: Just summaries
MPs: Show us the docs
DD: They don't exist https://t.co/hSFeUNSche

— Alberto Nardelli (@AlbertoNardelli) November 7, 2017

DD, 13 days ago, Dexeu Committee:
“Of the 57” sectoral impact assessments “They are in excruciating detail”
Today: “not the case they exist” pic.twitter.com/SqqJzta9Hw

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) November 7, 2017

Davis personally downloaded them from his Word 97 onto a floppy disk protected with his usual password 'BergeracMI5'. The number makes it super safe.

Also from Faisal

How about this for weird - minister @alistairburtUK in Israel officially at same time as his boss Priti Patel unofficially - didnt know pic.twitter.com/3D4ZETW380

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) November 7, 2017

I assume she's being fired today, but I don't really get why it didn't happen beforehand, she's no threat to May and no leadership challenge is likely to mobilise around her any time soon. Yeah it looks like terrible judgement appointing her in the first place but there have been many examples of obviously terrible judgement in the past year, and not sacking her just makes May look weak, defensive and ineffectual.

Panic and paralysis don’t lead to anything like sane decisions.

she is very dim but also quite ‘charismatic’ so not ideal to have her as an arch-brexiteer pissing from the back benches. it surely makes boris unsackable now too, if she goes.

she’s the brightest of a dim bunch in the brexiteers. and he going surely upsets the balance in the cabinet without appointing another brexit binch.... and when you look down the list of those. speaks volumes that liz truss is still a minister fgs

binch

Could we not

On the other hand I haven't seen a single Tory MP prepared to stand up and defend her, so I doubt they're exactly going to rally round her any time soon.

Boris is already unsackable. I don't think Priti Patel is charismatic either, she's one of those types political commentators are always talking up but are in fact completely useless, like Chuka Umunna or Dan Jarvis.

Dan Jarvis... there's a name from dim and distant past, especailly the dim part.

Bernard Jenkin has defended her

Bernard Jenkin, the Conservative MP and, like Priti Patel, a prominent Vote Leave supporter, told the Today programme this morning that Patel had made “a genuine mistake”

One genuine mistake, repeated 14 times and counting

yeah no one's arguing it wasn't a genuine mistake, that's kind of the point

my guess is that may's judgment (see passim for my opinion of same) is that moving ANY brexiteer onto the back binches, whosoe'er it be, can and probably will catalyse the revolt against her

(nadhim zadhawi's appearance on newsnight last was less a shot at labour than a shot at may if she thinks to waver on this)

a small segment of twitter is on Plane Tracker watching her plane from Nairobiinch its way towards Judgement

As per that twitter thread yesterday, 'it was a genuine mistake' is just saying 'our International Development Minister isn't actually an agent of a foreign power'.