brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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you'd have thought more MPs would be angrily calling the government out on their shit and trying to provoke some sort of rebellion. atm it seems anna soubry is leading the charge, and she's not exactly ideal as a voice of reason

imago, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

Apparently even The Spectator is referring to Johnson's fuck up as "one of the worst messes created by a Cabinet Minister" - maybe they just want him back.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

Even the Soubry's of the "moderate" wing (not worth 198 Bevan Attlees btw) are too scared of the idea of commissar Corbyn as pm to make up enough dissenters for a vote of no confidence, probably.

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:51 (six years ago) link

I imagine some Tories, old and new, are enjoying all this.

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/cameron-osborne.jpg

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:54 (six years ago) link

Jail them.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link

So Priti Patel. Shall we talk about her? (1)

— Cab Davidson (@gnomeicide) November 6, 2017

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

i swear if we vote this lot back in

imago, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

Are they going to bother with another election? They cancelled Queen's speech, cancelled Cabinet. Time for a government of national stability through the transition I suspect

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link

p disturbing stuff all around.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link

They're also filibustering and no-showing on Commons votes that call for them to actually do anything. Total abdication of responsibility.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:57 (six years ago) link

Well catching up with y’all has certainly cheered me up this morning.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

i thought i had trouble getting my wife to stop working on vacation but at least she wasn't meeting with benjamin netanyahu

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

woke soubz won’t even defy the whip on govt business (despite her protestations) so looking to her to support a no confidence is probably for the fairies atm

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

Patel recommending aid money for Israel directly after these secret meetings is pretty much the smoking gun right?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

I can’t think of a previous administration where something like Patel would have been let slide, but seems like anything goes with this weak-as-fuck government. Fallon going means nobody else can; they’re all like flashing invulnerable Pacmen rn.

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link

Johnson's fuck-up is worse than Patel's. Hers is deceitful and mendacious, his is both of those with added incompetence, and has the potential to (even further) fuck up the life of a blameless individual, while also generating far worse headlines later down the line. I think he'll be the one to keep his job.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

BREAKING: Ex-Communities Secretary Carl Sargeant has been found dead. He was suspended following allegations of incidents with women pic.twitter.com/zTAYtcP0XW

— BBC Wales News (@BBCWalesNews) November 7, 2017

nxd, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

and heeeeeere cooooooooomes the MRAs

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

Not sure about that Matt

As someone who used to work for FCO a thread on why ppl need to understand that Priti Patels "mistake" far far worse than Boris' "gaffe" /1

— Nick🇬🇧🇪🇺🇩🇪 (@nicktolhurst) November 7, 2017

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

12 meetings though. While on "holiday". Sack her for being the most boring person in Britain alone.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

Speaking of mistakes being far worse: good lord that dude has THREE flags in his twitter name. You can get executed for that in my filter bubble iirc.

What a dumb thread anyway, to rank two gruesome mistakes.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

i: i suspect may very much wishes she could just resign and vanish from public life forever
ii: except she is these days trapped in a catastrophic sunk-costs fugue of "my duty to party and country"
iii: (she's a tory so she entirely confuses these two)
iv: her judgment was extremely bad from the get-go but she now more than half-knows that she doesn't have instincts she can trust, quite the opposite
v: understandably, she trusts everyone round her even less (in terms of judgment AND motive)
vi: at every turn every salving action taken -- obviously sacking johnson, but there are now daily troubles to manage on all sides -- merely presents an even more terrible vista
vii: so she's retreated even further into the land of terrified zugwang

mark s, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

Does she trust in the small still voice of OUR LORD? Not that he has much good form in this.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link

if by that you mean Arlene Foster, then I'm not sure she has a choice TBH

Neil S, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link

looking fwd to five more years of this. increasing child poverty, increasing homelessness, nosediving productivity, lacklustre economic growth, etc etc

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

There's an extent to which any claim to accountability and seriousness in this cabinet is immediately undercut by the presence of Liam Fox in it. I know, I know, he went down, until the bloating in his corpse caused him to rise again.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

you know, I had thought that after the election, May remaining as PM was a torturous spectacle, but I increasingly get the sense that she is tenaciously clinging to power with as firm a bite as she can manage and quite possibly close to deranged. I don't think anybody is forcing her into this position, I think that the desire to be PM for whatever that means to her will trump any personal sense of embarrassment or shame of what and absolute disgrace she is. I think she is desperate that *something* will happen that means she can claim to have had some sort of success. Really resigning before the election is the only way she could have claimed this, when she was the most popular PM of all time or w/e.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

Flagged your post NV. Not that I want you to be banned at all (I enjoy your posts), but just think that you could taken a moement to have posted 'Sad' before adding your MRAs line. FP'd for being a tad heartless!

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

i'd assumed that may was told to stay and soak up the blame for the unfolding disaster that |||||| alludes to until an opportune moment presented itself

however, i suspect the nature of this unfolding disaster specifically precludes an opportune moment from occurring

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

Reading about the 1979 No Confidence motion has got me excited now. Is a poetic reversal of it really unlikely?

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link

@DawnHFoster 1h1 hour ago
Priti Patel hasn't turned up to answer the urgent question on her conduct because she's taken holiday

Damn whose army is she trying to fund now?

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

She'll last until she's seen to be actively endagering the whole idea of Brexit. Unfortunately for the rest of us that means she's going to have to move closer and closer to the fanatics.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

@GuardianHeather
Johnson turns on Thornberry, accusing her of "seeking to score political points", deflecting blame from the Iranian regime.

Well there we are.

nashwan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

So, they aren't having a Cabinet meeting, they're having a fight out in the yard. Right?

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Carl Sargeant.

Or, does it have to be on the rolling RIP thread first?

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

FP'd for being a tad heartless!

that's fine, i agree!

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

.@Number10press confirms that the Prime Minister learned about Priti Patel's plan to give aid money to the Israeli army from the BBC, today.

— Robert Hutton (@RobDotHutton) November 7, 2017


may getting mugged off big style lately

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

Fuck me this is an absolute clown car.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Why the fuck did Johnson personally ever have to comment on what this woman was or wasn't doing btw? Anyone have more details on the initial arrest (I read a tweet saying that Reuters trains journalists however as the letter from the Reuters CEO says she was there on a family holiday)?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

priti patel not exactly doing wonders for that particular explanation

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

Priti's claims of proposing int aid to the Israeli military would contravene current UK policy in occupied Palestinian territories, it's total bs!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

Any explanation of what she's doing going on holiday with Stuart Polak anyway?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

peston's reporting patel is going

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

So I am hearing that Priti Patel is likely to be sacked within hours. That would be two cabinet ministers gone in a week.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 7, 2017

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

fond memories of the media ripping on Corbyn because he couldn't fill a shadow cabinet

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Priti's husband looks impossibly tall, maybe her husband is an animatronic robot cunningly concealing two more lobbyists!

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Oh dear. It was just reported on R4 that Priti is in even deeper shit because of "further revelations about her Israel visit".

calzino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

LOL @ Nadhim Zahawi on Newsnight, what a clown, apparently Labour MPs giggling at Boris' inept performance in the Commons are encouraging the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. The thing is, at times like this, the Tories usual plan would have been to sober up Michael Fallon, stick him a ministerial car, down to the BBC, prop him in front of the cameras to huff and puff as a 'safe pair of hands' but, as we now know, his hands were anything but safe!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

No10 saying Priti Patel definitely NOT going tonight

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) November 7, 2017

What would it mean to you, that sentence - "I haven't seen Evil Dead II, yet"?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link


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