SHOCKING ILM Confessions!

Yeah, I was born in '79 and remember that song as an indelible part of the 80s. You don't hear it as much anymore, though. If anything, "Dancin' in the Dark" seems to get more play.

As someone who grew up (and still lives) in New Jersey, my only response to anyone ignorant of the Springsteen oeuvre is a massive, crushing wave of jealousy. I certainly wish I'd never heard a note of his music myself.

ok, this is almost reverse james murphy:
i had tickets to daft punk inn 2007 but was tired and stayed home

in not inn

would stay at daft punk inn

you say that, but you'd just end up not going

I can't think of how any Bruce Springsteen song goes, apart from "Born to Run".

― jmm, Saturday, November 4, 2017 8:08 AM (eleven hours ago)

what about that one that goes "wrapped up like a douche in the middle of the night"? i thought everybody knew that one.

every time i listen to "all balls don't bounce" i want to correct aceyalone and say "you mean 'not all balls bounce'".

Haha

I know no one cares but I woke up in a mad panic in the middle of the night because I hadn't added NOMEANSNO to the list of punk bands I listen to. I listen to NOMEANSNO every other day.

do you count Rudimentary Peni as not-quite-punk

No matter how many times I hear it, I can never remember how 'Ben' by Michael Jackson goes.

i'm trying to think of it in my head and all i'm getting is "ben, i've known you since you were ten, and you were a complete bastard then", which isn't at all how that song goes

I used to play that song on the jukebox in my local in Glasgow every time I was in. I was a popular customer. "Fire" by Arthur Brown was my other regular pick.

I still haven't found anyone on ILM whose taste I can trust more than let's say 50%.

lol these threads always just turn into passive aggressiveness shitting on other ppl's taste

i confess...... that thing you like sucks

i'm sorry you're such a jerk

I accuse myself of the following sins... MBV are overrated.

The more any of those bands on the periphery of Punk sound like actual punk, the more I dislike them. I can't think of a good specific example for Rudimentary Peni but I can give you a clear example for, say, Crass. I've been lucky enough to meet Steve Ignorant - really cool guy, love his attitude to life and society, really like his autobiography a lot etc etc. But, as much as I want to like 'his' version of Crass the most (mainly for reason of class), I hate that song 'Do They Owe Us A Living'. The only Crass did that's any good (to me) is the arty, rad fem, spoken word, messing about with noise and free jazz output and this is all of the stuff that routinely gets derided by a lot (but not all obv.) of punks as being pretentious or studenty (in my limited experience).

Imagine you're at a party, it's super chilled out, nice people there that you know, there's a warm glow in the room. As far as I'm concerned you could be listening to good music from almost any genre and it remains feeling like a nice situation to be in. Some cool French prog, some deep house, some 90s R&B, some doom metal, some dub, some synth pop, some roughneck jungle, some UK funky, some flute led Krautrock, some Afrobeat, some Argentinian marching band music... I can imagine listening to almost anything in this situation and it being a really good night. But then I picture someone bowling into the room and saying: "Have you heard this demo by Gordon And The Gonads? They played with the Murder Junkies once. The bass player stabbed a cop. The singer used to piss himself on stage. This was the only thing they ever recorded and Numero just put it out on vinyl." And then they put on a record that sounds like the big guy from Poison Idea shitting through a sieve into a dictaphone. That, to me, is the height of incivility. And even though it never happened anywhere outside of my own head, it still makes my blood boil.

"the only music Crass did"

crass rule. so much of what i love about crass is tied in with how much i worship john loder though. albini has never made a record that even approaches how great john loder could be. he wishes he could. but he never will. he doesn't know how. the best thing big black ever did is side one of songs about fucking. thanks to john loder. i could type his name a thousand times.

although i do love the production on heartbeat. the wire cover. albini must have done that. that sounds amazing. it's a better version than wire's original too.

the first shellac album is the only one that sounds any good and the only one recorded at southern studios. i think.

I tend to love anything described as krautrock; and can hardly listen to any actual krautrock.

Imagine you're at a party, it's super chilled out, nice people there that you know, there's a warm glow in the room. As far as I'm concerned you could be listening to good music from almost any genre and it remains feeling like a nice situation to be in. Some cool French prog, some deep house, some 90s R&B, some doom metal, some dub, some synth pop, some roughneck jungle, some UK funky, some flute led Krautrock, some Afrobeat, some Argentinian marching band music... I can imagine listening to almost anything in this situation and it being a really good night. But then I picture someone bowling into the room and saying: "Have you heard this demo by Gordon And The Gonads? They played with the Murder Junkies once. The bass player stabbed a cop. The singer used to piss himself on stage. This was the only thing they ever recorded and Numero just put it out on vinyl." And then they put on a record that sounds like the big guy from Poison Idea shitting through a sieve into a dictaphone. That, to me, is the height of incivility. And even though it never happened anywhere outside of my own head, it still makes my blood boil.

― Doran

i saw that buñuel film once. it was ok.

XP: I don't think that's fair. Action Park is one of the greatest rock LPs ever recorded so pretty much anything is going to sound slightly weak by comparison - not just other Shellac LPs. I think Dude Incredible is a really good LP as well though.

Terraform is the best Shellac record by a country mile

I'm just watching some UK gospel singers on TV at the moment who all sing with American accents and I confess this seems kind of wrong to me - if you believe in God and want to praise him, why would you put on an accent to do it?

God's obviously American so they hope he'll understand it better.

it's a longstanding tradition to play a character whenever you worship god in public

I love the Ut record that Albini produced. That's their best sounding record.

Yes, but the programme just switched over to rows of glum parisihioners in some chuch in Wolverhampton or somewhere dutifully singing a hymn in their bog standard accents. (xp)

Imago have you heard Nomeansno? Figure they'd be in your wheelhouse

I have never played an album by Springsteen or Led Zeppelin.

(and I am from the '70s)

Not only have I never played an album by Springsteen, I've never heard one either.

I am from New Jersey and have only listened to one straight through - "Born In The USA" - because my kid sister bought it on cassette when it was released. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all but ... no way. Could never deal with Broooooce.

The only Crass did that's any good (to me) is the arty, rad fem, spoken word, messing about with noise and free jazz output and this is all of the stuff that routinely gets derided by a lot (but not all obv.) of punks as being pretentious or studenty (in my limited experience).

Ha, I always think of this as basically all of Crass's output, probably because it's the stuff I listen to. I like "How Does It Feel (to Be the Mother of 1000 Dead)?" a lot, though.

I don't think I hate anything I've heard by Crass.

i would rather listen to 'a night at the hip-hopera' than actual queen or most of the hip-hop being sampled

― mookieproof, Saturday, November 4, 2017

I love you

I've only spent significant time listening to Penis Envy and the Nagasaki Nightmare single. Is that what we're talking about? I love that stuff.

will persevere with Nomeansno despite misgivings when I've heard them

best recent punk discovery = The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks, which is basically an experimental rock opus in punks clothes tbf

nomeansno is one of the greatest bands of all time

Jjmm: yes.

And Brad is clearly a man of great taste and erudition and no doubt is a snappy dresser who smells divine as well. NOMEANSNO are the best.

And as for buñuel, I would actually rather drag a piano with a dead donkey tied to it up a narrow staircase than listen to the Gordon And The Gonads' demo on Numero.

(Try Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?, Wrong, The People's Choice, Live And Cuddly, 0+2=1 and/or comp The People's Choice for points of entry.)

Whoops.

When they make lists of "fempunk", "Penis Envy" never gets mentioned, and yet it's one of the best ones. Should be as automatically listed as the Au Pairs, etc.

I never heard a complete Nina Simone album until earlier this year.

Join the, I imagine fairly substantial, club.

Except I still haven't heard a Nina Simone album! And Pavement, I've never knowingly heard anything by them at all.

I find most Clinton projects just too damn silly. And not in a prankster-ish, transcendental way.

Bert Jansch's voice is a bit of a bore. See above.