RFI: Border Community - Nathan Fake, James Holden, The MFA, Petter etc.

yurt the fuck out, people!

(rly good record btw)

Thunder Moon Gathering is so good, a step out into this huge dark space. But yes, drums could be louder

really liking this so far. some of it is very... boredoms?

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, November 3, 2017 12:54 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is straight solar energy music

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, November 3, 2017 1:00 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

okay it's all gone a bit steve hillage now

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, November 3, 2017 1:07 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're making this sound awesome

i'm digging it.

i remember when the last holden album came out, there was a small rush of cool cosmic techno in a similar vein around that time, stuff like stellar om source "joy one mile" and huerco s "colonial patterns"

i like that sound

it's harder to feel any techno roots in this one tbh, feels more like it's coming more from psych rock and jazz and non-western folk musics

interesting! can't wait to listen

Holden is virtually unique among 00s house and techno producers in that his steps away from the dancefloor have made him more interesting rather than less.

Fucking loved this on first instance, crazy cosmic Wicker Man pagan forest festival music. Some of the early tracks seem to have hit on some halfway point between Cluster or Harmonia and I dunno Pentangle or someone.

not sure which producers you're thinking of, but i think in the case of a lot of what i am thinking about the producers have moved from experimental music more toward dance music as opposed to moving in the other direction (like holden)

personally i think holden is interesting in both modes - still love his "balance" and "at the control" mixes

Yeah I wasn't responding to your post in particular (I love Joy One Mile and had no idea that Stella Om Source was coming to dance music from a different background). Holden's mixes are good ('At The Controls' is great) but as a producer he was never especially interesting to me, even if his original sound has been aped to death in the intervening years.

The one track on this that really sounds like it might be borne out of techno is also the one thing that sounds kind of like a radiohead jam (each moment like the first)

When I say techno I probably actually just mean boards of candada tbh

Shamanic psych Sun Ra jazz techno. Perfect music for a ayahuasca trip. This is truly an album for our 10s times.

have you done ayahuasca or is this a conjecture

this reminds me of when [redacted] got sonned by [redacted] in a cocaine beef

I’ve got the music here, just pondering

This does exactly what I hoped it would.

Excellent album

listening to this now, and it sounds like Popol Vuh!

also, was going to say the closest companion to this is the recent Floating Points stuff (tho this is a little wilder) -- and forgot they had actually been on an EP together w/Maalem Mahmoud Guinia in 2015.

I haven't been able to get into Floating Points...it was just too clean and refined. Holden w/ his modular fun has been able to grab that live exciting noisy everythings out of control kind of vibe thats hard to do (actually it's easy to do, but it's hard to do it while still being in control?)

yeah, FP tends to err on the side of post rock that I find a bit boring, but when he gets it, he really get it (I would say Kuiper is the closest to this). But really impressed at this Holden thing, guess I'll have to go back and check his recent stuff.

oh my god this rules

i don't get much out of floating points but their new record that sounds like Meddle/DSOTM is GREAT

Dominique if you slept on the inheritors please listen ASAP.

Played it at record club: https://devonrecordclub.com/2017/11/09/james-holden-the-animal-spirits-the-animal-spirits-round-104-nicks-choice/

looks like he's touring, but mostly europe

someone check out the tour!

I saw him at Le Poison Rouge a few years back, was great.

also saw him a couple of years back touring 'the inheritors'. was just analogue synths and a live drummer - like a cave-rave version of silver apples. would love to see him with the full band

yup, saw him doing that tour at mutek

Great words, Nick. This descriptor is both notable and irresistible to those of us forever influenced by late Talk Talk or post-Japan Sylvian: "To go from control-freakish, micro-edited techno experiments to what’s essentially live, improvised kraut-jazz-prog-rock, is quite a move in only three albums." Even better that Holden's record easily meets the resulting expectations. Wonderful stuff.

just to say that any time the new record is playing, everyone in the car (i drive a fair bit) asks me what it is because they are entranced.

Saw them live last weekend and it was fantastic, everything you would expect and want them to be.

new James Holden single (from upcoming album) is sensational - https://jamesholden.bandcamp.com/album/imagine-this-is-a-high-dimensional-space-of-all-possibilities

With artwork from our very own professor genius!

so there is! extra bonus.

:)))

I am OBSESSED w this James Holden Britney remix rn

https://soundcloud.com/muumuse/britney-spears-breathe-on-me-james-holden-vocal-mix

what are the best James Holden remixes besides The Sky Was Pink????? I WANT MORE

SAFARI REMIX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXk5rUUalBE

new order - someone like you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwYEvJglnDg

System 7 - Planet 7 (James Holden Remix)
Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Remix)

huge co-sign on that 93 Returning mix

I thought this was going to be about the new track from the upcoming album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHsqkhz4AOg

Holden’s remix of XAM Duo’s “Cold Stones” was one of my top tracks of 2022 - intergalactic jazz techno!

as if the new Katie Gately being great wasn't enough, the new James Holden is sounding fab too!

Absolutely incredible interview about this album's making. Clearly an astonishing feat

https://www.musicradar.com/news/james-holden-interview

Really enjoyed that in-depth process interview. I don't know that there's anything about it that makes it an astonishing feat per se (if you really dig into the nitty gritty of a lot of electronic records I think you'd find an impressive degree of creative processes, resampling, etc) but I'm excited to listen to it now.

Enjoying the record...and I like pretty much everything he does these days, but miss a bit of the noise of the Inheritors. Maybe it's a bit too jazzy and hippie for me.

knowing very little about how electronic music is made i am very easily impressed lol. but it does seem like he went to impressive lengths! it's a very long record and it keeps me interested the whole time. love that he describes it as the album his 12 year-old self wanted to make, and a dialogue with that self

I do really like the looseness and liveness of the record, although it's all a bit too "cosmic jammers" for me too. I don't know that the drums benefit from being recorded through speakers with ribbon mics in a room either, for dance music I like that in-your-face feel. It took me a long time to realize that the room that the music is going to be played in, over a soundsystem, is more important than the one it was recorded in.

But I'm jealous of his process because it sounds fun, and there are some really cool moments and tracks here.