Worst Beach Boys Song on Carl and the Passions (So Tough) - Part 6 in an Ongoing Series

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yeah its good stuff. I'm a big Dennis fan.

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

He Come Down by quite a margin. Rest of this album is fine to great.

caek, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Just re-listened to this 'cos I realised I could hardly remember any of the songs - it's a really good album on the whole, far, far better than I thought. 'He Come Down' is a waste of time, however, so I'll be voting for that.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed -- the thing was really eviscerated when it was released, but today sounds of a piece with Holland (Dennis stuff here notwithstanding) with it's slinky arrangements and synths. I like it.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed -- the thing was really eviscerated when it was released

Bundling the album w/a new pressing of Pet Sounds had something to do with it.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

haha yeah that's a serious wtf marketing strategy

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Dennis Wilson's two songs are both delivered in an irritating nervous tremolo which isn't at all helped by Brian's big-toned symphonic accompaniment to his troubled brother's heavy-handed lyrics and rudimentary piano playing. The more trite and tortured the lyrics, the louder the strings become, until both "Make It Good" and "Cuddle Up" are swallowed up in a lugubrious Mahleresque crescendo.

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"He Is Come" (arranged by Brian) is a gospel-flavored celebration of Maharishi consciousness (to each his own, I admit) and is pretty neat for its tight, six-voice choral singing and the crackling energy of the vocal jamming on repeated choruses at the end.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

there seem to be a number of credit details wrong there...? but maybe I'm misremembering things

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

You mean, like, Brian having ANYTHING to do with those Dennis songs?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I find the idea that Brian had something to do with a song called "He Is Come" amusing.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

You mean, like, Brian having ANYTHING to do with those Dennis songs?

Yeah, definitely that - but the reviewer in general seems to vastly overstate Brian's involvement, which I find rather befuddling

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I like that "Marcella" is about some x-rated masseuse Bryan used to go to, so they had to, er, trim the lyrics some.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

lolz I've never heard that one

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

S'in Heroes and Villains, I think, which—trashy tho it is—is still the best book on the BB's.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Easy. "He Come Down". Everything else is great.

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I always saw this as a drop in quality between Surf's Up and Holland. A lot of it is just plain MOR blandness and the much-beloved Dennis songs really grate on me. My favourite one is actually 'Here She Comes' which doesn't sound like the Boys at all and is instead a great bit of Neil Young-style '70s rock.

the next grozart, Thursday, 14 May 2009 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I like that "Marcella" is about some x-rated masseuse Bryan used to go to, so they had to, er, trim the lyrics some.

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I believe this was Deirdre from an earlier album. Friends? Sunflower?

the next grozart, Thursday, 14 May 2009 10:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Deirdre (from Sunflower) is a Bruce Johnson song.

fit and working again, Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Co-written with Brian

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, but "Marcella" is the masseuse song.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

S'in Heroes and Villains, I think, which—trashy tho it is—is still the best book on the BB's.

man the opening chapters about Dennis' last days in that are super-tabloid tragic

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

The bit where Mike Love goes crazy and carries around a jug of apple juice for days on end is entertaining

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 May 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

there's something great about the sound of this album

iatee, Friday, 15 May 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 18 May 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Are they supposed to be paying a tribute to Get Back in that video or what?

dog latin, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

What idiot said "Marcella" is the worst song on this?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

An outlier in a discography of outliers. Sounds like a completely different band to the one on Surf's Up the year before and Holland the year after. In my head it came out a lot later than 1972. My favourite is "Here She Comes", which doesn't sound like the Beach Boys in any way whatsoever.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

This is the weakest of their 66-73 run. The two singles are fun, and the Chaplin/Fataar songs are adequate Manassas tributes. The silliest song is "He Come Down", the dullest is "Cuddle Up".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

kind of want to feed the opening chord/note of 'Make It Good' into a sampler and make a house tune out of it

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Got a sudden urge to hear "Here She Comes" the other day, and hadn't realised there's been another one of those extensive reissues covering 1972 (So Tough and Holland).

Never loved So Tough but I find myself revisiting both this and Holland a fair bit in recent times

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 2 January 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link

Actually think Dennis ones are the weak link here (which is not usually the case)

PaulTMA, Monday, 2 January 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Maturity is admitting this is your favourite Beach Boys album

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 01:49 (seven months ago) link

I'd so vote "All This Is That" nowadays

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 01:50 (seven months ago) link

The Dennis songs, much as I want to like them, are sadly let down by his voice

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 01:51 (seven months ago) link

You need a mess of help to stand alone qft

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 01:57 (seven months ago) link

No wait, this is WORST songs. I wouldn't vote All This Is That as worst, I'd vote it best

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 01:58 (seven months ago) link


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